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verbal
Aug 1, 2003, 2:07 PM
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I know many of you have climbed at the Red, some of you may even consider it your home crag, and several may be planning trips to the Red River Gorge, but did you know that access to hundreds of sport routes and many trad routes are in question. Over 700 acres of some of the best climbing the Red has to offer will soon be up for sale. The Red River Gorge Climbers Coalition is currently working to purchase this land, at an estimated $350,000, to ensure access for climbers. Please visit www.thered.org for details about the purchase of the land, and for details on how you can help.
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jerrygarcia
Aug 1, 2003, 2:21 PM
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bump, because no one seemed to notice this post.
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texasclimber
Aug 1, 2003, 2:32 PM
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That sucks. Seems like every damn climbing crag is having access issues. :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:
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killclimbz
Aug 1, 2003, 2:40 PM
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Donation sent via paypal. Unfortunately I am not in the position to make a substantial donation. $10 is about all I can afford these days. Then how many registered users do we have on this site? If everyone sent $10 to the coalition a good chunk of money would be raised. Perhaps this issue could get a section on the front page to try to help raise money. RRG is definitely one of the great US climbing areas and with access out east being so much more of a pain than it is in the west we need to help out when we can.
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killclimbz
Aug 1, 2003, 2:57 PM
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Pay Pal info for those who would rather not look through the Red site. The e-mail address you are making the donation through paypal.com is rrgcc@rrgcc.org. Donate something. If enough of us donate $5, $10, $20 we can really make a dent in the amount they are trying to raise. Even if you never have been there (and I have not) you might make it there someday.
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rrrADAM
Aug 1, 2003, 3:18 PM
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Moved to the Access Issues & Closures Forum. It will generate more replies there, as it will stay on top longer than General.
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flash
Aug 3, 2003, 2:33 AM
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The aspect of bidding for a route to "own" a route will generate the funds needed to make this large purchase of land. Bidding and out-bidding one-another will also prove the passion that climbers have for climbing - and not giving up on issues of Access. This is by far the largest land purchase ever made by a local climbing organization - with over 700 acres. This alone is highly regarded as "carving a piece of history" in our books. I am really happy to see the support from everyone as far away as Germany, France, Canada, Colorado, Michigan and many others. If you too are able to help, that's great - and we thank you.
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flash
Aug 8, 2003, 2:50 PM
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A late report with some stunning stats: The national trend is to close private land to climbing. In a recent survey dated June 2003 of ALL U.S. climbing areas, 55% of closed climbing areas were on privately owned land. The Coalition is taking all the steps to own this land, but we need your help: Each of your donations, sponsorship and all of your support matters more than ever. If we own the land, they cannot take it away from us. More info... visit www.thered.org And... don't forget to take a look at our new online guide (sorting features added)
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killclimbz
Aug 8, 2003, 3:39 PM
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In reply to: A late report with some stunning stats: The national trend is to close private land to climbing. In a recent survey dated June 2003 of ALL U.S. climbing areas, 55% of closed climbing areas were on privately owned land. Not really that stunning at all. With such a large number of people unwilling to take responsibilty for their actions and litigate, it's amazing that the percentage isn't more like 90%.
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flash
Aug 12, 2003, 1:15 PM
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Numbers have been added up, sorted, and placed black on white - and here it is: Private land owners are responsible for nearly 75% of ALL closures. www.thered.org
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