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kansasclimber


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I know this is kind of a stupid question but i just need a number of people that agree that beginner climbers should start out top-roping, I know it is not worth your time to even reply just type a yes, for they should start there, or no they shouldn't. Thanks a LOT

Stephen


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This is a lowball T0- on choss. Get off the boat.


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bump..ummm... yea sure i guess i'll say yes. but boulders rock for beginners to learn on too.


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Not neccessarily. I think if you start out leading sport, you'll be more confident about falling, and it is relatively safe for you to do that as long as you are with someone who is experienced enough to show you how.


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yes


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Who?


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This is a lowball T0- on choss. Get off the boat.
Get off the "everything's a troll" boat. Looking through his posting history I'd say he's serious with his question.


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I'd say do 2 or 3 Raps. then knock out a climb on Tr.


More to the point. Yes, but only if a CLIMBER sets up the climb.


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TR with an experienced partner and LOTS of bouldering.


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This is a lowball T0- on choss. Get off the boat.
Get off the "everything's a troll" boat. Looking through his posting history I'd say he's serious with his question.

So what you're saying is that you don't like me calling him a troll, because what you think is that he's ACTUALLY this dumb?


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I'd say NO just cause your on TR even with a sport/ trad climb when you second it. And you start to learn how to place/ remove gear from the start.
Just my 2 cents


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just type a yes, for they should start there
Stephen

yes.

but bouldering, as other people have pointed out, is also a great way of getting beginners more into climbing.. as they often enjoy the challenges of completing a short but technical route...

thats my input... "yes.. and bouldering"


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I know many many ppl who started toproping. I climb with a club that teaches beginners. I have taught beginners. We teach them to put on the harness,tie into the rope,the commands, how to belay, and a bit about climbing hand and foot work. Then we have each person practice these skills under supervision. We also try to teach how to fall and that it is safe.


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Yes. But as pointed out in this thread, it is not the only way to learn.

And a bit of advice, this is not meant to flame you. In an academic environment a survey is suppose to provide insight to a question, and not be design to support a predetermined answer. I am all for helping a fellow student, but why is it worth our time to answer when you tell us that you:

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need a number of people that agree that beginner climbers should start out top-roping. . .is not worth your time to even reply just type a yes


What if top-roping is not the best method?
Why should someone reply when you tell them it is not worth their time?

-D


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Yes, Top roping is a good way to start out. Getting into an intro class is important as well. By the way, how scientific do you want this survey to be? If it is a project for school you need to set parameters.


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Yes, top roping with lots of bouldering, both with experienced climbers or possibly in a gym.


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Not neccessarily. I think if you start out leading sport, you'll be more confident about falling, and it is relatively safe for you to do that as long as you are with someone who is experienced enough to show you how.

definitely take a class before you try this. Note that the commenter above started top roping as well. Lead climbing is a serious sport (with hugh risks involved) and should not be taken lightly by beginner climbers. Training and practice apply to climbing as much as it does to any other sport. If a beginner is real serious about climbing then true freedom will come when you learn to lead TRAD.


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just type a yes, for they should start there
Stephen

yes.

but bouldering, as other people have pointed out, is also a great way of getting beginners more into climbing.. as they often enjoy the challenges of completing a short but technical route...

thats my input... "yes.. and bouldering"

As a beginner climber be careful about bouldering. Bouldering can be one of the most dangerous forms of climbing there is. The reason why is that many forget the fuzzy line between when bouldering stops and free climbing begins (i.e. high enough off the ground to cause serious injury or death). Bouldering done with that in mind (to protect yourself from injury) is a great training forum for climbing. As I and others have commented before, you need to set parameters on the survey. If mountaineering (especially alpine) is a goal of learning to climb (as was my reason to learning how to TRAD lead) then you have many prerequisites to overcome before tackling those big mountains. But if just doing the hard stuff in the gym is all you want to do then there is another path you would take. Either way get some good instruction and plan your training as you would any other serious sport. Safety should be at the top of your list ... if it is then you can have a long and prosperous life enjoying this fabulous sport called climbing.


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Yes, top roping is a great way to start rcok climbing


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that's how i started. i fear falling, so this isn't really my ideal sport... but i like the safety blankie. i've gotten into bouldering though and have taken some good diggers...and i still go back for more...

yes.


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Pleased help? No, I'm not pleased that my tax dollars are supporting grammatical illiteracy in today's schools.


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I think it depends on the person. If the person shows a great deal of fear then yes toproping is the best way to begin. Sport climbing is good for those who show less fear and have a good amount of trust in the equipment. Trad climbing requires alot of teaching and practicing. Just my opinion.


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