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biff
Nov 18, 2003, 9:12 PM
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The developers are working on a random interface to the photos of the site here:
www.rockclimbing.com/photo/random_rate.php
Right now it allows you to browse through photos that have less than 10 votes and allow voting.
If you don't want to vote on a photo leave the vote menu at "Rate This Photo"
If you don't want to comment on a photo, leave the comment box empty.
then press the vote/comment button.
if you aren't privilaged to vote, the vote box shouldn't appear.
I am already thinking to improve the page:
Allow the user to set the Maximum number of votes.
Allow the user to set a field to only view photos that he/she has not voted on
Check it out and please post your requests for improvements here:
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tim
Nov 18, 2003, 9:21 PM
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Maybe a feature to autogenerate (statically, on disk) a bunch of thumbnails so that users are presented a screen like a 'lightbox' full of smaller images, with links to view full-size and/or rate them, would be worth pursuing.
If you're feeling saucy, that is :-)
Great job man!
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jkarns
Nov 18, 2003, 9:41 PM
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Damn, that thing is addictive!
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biff
Nov 18, 2003, 9:46 PM
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I'm not really feeling saucy .. but I would like to know the SQL syntax so that I can join the Votes Table with the Photos table so that I can select only photos that the user hasn't voted on. .. might it be easier to select all the ones that the user has voted on, then remove that list from the entire list of results?
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orangekyak
Nov 18, 2003, 10:24 PM
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yeah this is really cool. i got sucked in for about 20 minutes. one of my own pics came up but it didn't let me rate it again 8) oh well.
whose idea was this? your implementation is great! the only suggestion I can think of is that you put date posted (if available) and type of picture (topo, profile, trad, sport, aid ...). type of picture is nice because I rate topos differently than profiles differently than climbing differently than artistic ...
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tim
Nov 18, 2003, 10:27 PM
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yeah Biff you did a great job on the subtle details!
not showing the photographer or the rating beforehand -- eliminate bias/groupthink
good deal. kind of like the photo.net interface but with rc.com-specific features.
sweet! I'll see what I can do about the join you requested.
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dingus
Nov 18, 2003, 10:31 PM
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I have to scroll down every time to see a pic or even to just go to the next photo. I suggest you shove all that header crap out of the way so the photo will fit on the screen. And the movement buttons should be at the top, not the bottom. Or better yet, BOTH!
Cheers
DMT
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eric
Nov 18, 2003, 10:33 PM
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In reply to: I'm not really feeling saucy .. but I would like to know the SQL syntax so that I can join the Votes Table with the Photos table so that I can select only photos that the user hasn't voted on. .. might it be easier to select all the ones that the user has voted on, then remove that list from the entire list of results?
Let's not have a discussion about our db schema in a public forum :)
I'll email some possibilities to our CVS list.
Also, how about a rating filter? And a "Skip" button so you don't have to rate certain photos?
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biff
Nov 19, 2003, 3:25 PM
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Dingus: I intentionally put the stuff at the bottom so you would have to see the whole picture before voting on it, or skiping to the next. .. Maybe I will put a next photo button at the top, but that would just add more things at the top .. maybe if I can do it without taking another line. As far as header crap, I think eveything that I have above the photo is necessary, I want to give credit to the photographer of the last photo, and give the user an oppertunity to see other photographs from him/her. I want to see the description of the photo so that I can get an understanding of what the photographer was trying to capture. If you have a spesific beef with one of the things above the photo please let me know, maybe you can change my mind.
ERic: thanks alot for your help with the SQL, and efficency Updates. As far as a skip button, if you don't select a value in the vote box and don't put a comment in the comment box, they won't be added. This needs to be more clear. Here are 3 options that I came up with none of which I like, I would really like some input on this.
1) add a button that says No vote/comment
2) add /skip to the current button
3) put small text "Leaving the vote/comment empty will not add a vote/comment" or something under the vote/comment button
NeroShock: thanks for the SQL, but the database we use right now doesn't allow searches like that, Eric had to create a 2 stage search to get things to work, but it is prety much like what you suggested, Thanks.
OrangeKyak: I think adding that information is a good Idea .. I will try to add it so that it takes up as little room as possible
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sbclimber
Nov 19, 2003, 4:46 PM
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is there another way of getting to the link without going through this thread?
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one900johnnyk
Nov 19, 2003, 5:21 PM
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man i wish i had a clue what was going on in this thread..
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dingus
Nov 19, 2003, 5:34 PM
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In reply to: Dingus: I intentionally put the stuff at the bottom so you would have to see the whole picture before voting on it, or skiping to the next. .. Maybe I will put a next photo button at the top, but that would just add more things at the top .. maybe if I can do it without taking another line. As far as header crap, I think eveything that I have above the photo is necessary, I want to give credit to the photographer of the last photo, and give the user an oppertunity to see other photographs from him/her.
This is a U/I correct? Here's a novel thought... why not incorporate the users' needs into your U/I code?
I mean you no personal offense, but this is classic "the end user doesn't know jack shit" developer speak.
Bottom line: If I have to scroll down to navigate the tool, or even to see the entire photo, I won't use it. Simple as that.
DMT
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melekzek
Nov 19, 2003, 9:32 PM
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man, this is addictive... I really enjoy the "rate my xxxxx" kind interface, no more vote-back-back-scroll-select pic-vote-back-back-scroll-select pic.
I would suggest including pictures with waay many votes as well. Why not? I can see the motivation, but there might be some high volume voted pics, which I might have missed... To prevent overload, you can put some ratio, %90 with pics not much voted and %10 with pics already voted a lot.
About automatically skipping pictures already voted by me, you can also do it simply checking the pic whether it is voted by me or not, before displaying. If so, restart picture selection process. A final SQL solution is nicer though.
Very nice work, and damn you all, I should have been working :lol:
edited: because I am dumb and have missed the fact that I can use vote button without a vote as a skip process.....
edited second time: because I was lazy and havent read previous db discussions
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biff
Nov 19, 2003, 11:19 PM
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sbclimber: right now the only way is to access it though this form .. or add it to your favouries/bookmarks. People who read this thread are like beta testers .. so that if the interface really sucked we didn't get a bunch of bug reports saying how crappy it is. .. I think the page will be fully integreated into the site by next monday.
here is a link for those who just came here:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/photo/random_rate.php
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melekzek
Nov 20, 2003, 12:07 AM
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Sometimes I just get a description, but there is not a photo. No error messages either.
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biff
Nov 20, 2003, 12:26 AM
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Is the description always the same?
are you sure that the page has finished loading .. (the photo has finished downloading?) some photos are over 100k and can take 20 seconds to download over dialup.
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climbsomething
Nov 20, 2003, 12:41 AM
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Wow! This is killer! Nice touch, a really swell improvement to the site. You code monkeys are kicking ass.
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the_pirate
Nov 20, 2003, 12:42 AM
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nice work biff. so damn addictive. i really like that you don't show the rating or photog till after i vote. my productivity at work is going to go straight down the crapper.
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biff
Nov 20, 2003, 12:52 AM
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glad to hear there are other time wasters here.
I just did some quick queries on how many photos I have voted on.
Since this Spring I have voted on over 2100 (in spring I deleted all of my own votes by accident)
I think rrradam is the only one who has wasted more time than me. Polarwid is damn close too.
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Nov 20, 2003, 1:27 AM
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Hey this is really really good Biff. I like it a lot. It almost rivals the pic critique forum.
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orangekyak
Nov 20, 2003, 2:12 AM
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In reply to: glad to hear there are other time wasters here. I just did some quick queries on how many photos I have voted on.
Is there a way for us to check this? I think it would be cool to have "photo critique stats" such as ... number of photos rated, number of photos commented, and average rating
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melekzek
Nov 20, 2003, 3:39 AM
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In reply to: Is the description always the same?
In reply to: are you sure that the page has finished loading
If I encounter again, I will take a note of the pic.
Maybe its just my browser ??
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biff
Nov 20, 2003, 4:28 AM
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melekzek: it could be your browser .. I have noticed some images in Firebird (latest Mozilla) don't like to load .. but I have never had that problem on this site.
orangekyak: I was planing on making votes public in the future, then you could see these type of stats in the users profile:
Biff has wasted his time voting on over 2000 photos with an average of 6
View some of Biffs favourite photos (a link to sort photos by what I rated things) View some of Biff's Least Favouite photos.
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