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akicebum
Nov 26, 2003, 4:33 AM
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So I had a badass pair of M-10's then those bastards at TSA jacked them and I am now without a good technical crampon. This last issue of climbing bashed the M-10's. I thought they were pretty sweet, but I haven't tried the G-14. So now I want to buy a new pair but I don't really want drop a 190 for the M-10's. How do the G-14's size up to the M-10's and bionics? I climb in Nepal Extreme boots, and usually euro crampons fit better. Any suggestions? Was the review in Climbing just an add for Grivel's new toy. What's up?
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sandbag
Nov 26, 2003, 4:49 AM
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what are you talking about they jacked them? Report them stolen to the airline and then you get to get a new pair. UNless you were stupid enough to try to carry them on, then you should have just mailed them or checked them in your bags. Either way, i just bought a new pair of the G-14s and im trying them out this weekend. Ill let you know what i think.
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rockczar
Nov 26, 2003, 8:33 AM
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In reply to: I climb in Nepal Extreme boots, and usually euro crampons fit better. You say that euro crampons fit nepal extremes better. I was just getting ready to order a pair of BD sabretooths from the states (cheaper!) for my nepal extremes. Does anyone know of any compatibility problems? I was either going to get those or a pair of cm blackice crampons - i thought the blackices might fit better being euro and all but you were the first to mention it.
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punk
Nov 26, 2003, 8:50 AM
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Don’t worries they all fit pretty much the same just go with what u like BTW both Sabertooth and black ice I like them both with the CM being more aggressive
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cfnubbler
Nov 26, 2003, 1:19 PM
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Climbing Mag's reviews have a tendency to be little more the infomertials at times, but not for Grivel. I'm pretty sure the review staff would make mad, torrid love to Peter Metcalf if they could. All objectivity seems to fly out the window where BD is concerned, but they seem reasonably fair and balanced with most other manufacturers. The Grivel's are a superb crampon, BTW. -Nubbler
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couch_climber
Nov 26, 2003, 3:09 PM
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Rockczar - I've got the nepal ex & bd sabretooths - never had an issue, fit or otherwise. My $.02 Rog
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alpiner
Nov 26, 2003, 4:16 PM
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It was a rather poor review with a lot of misinformation and outdated material. But not nearly as bad as the ice tool review the issue before, pathetic. OTOH, at least they cover ice, R&I just seems to be about rock climbing now.
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cfnubbler
Nov 26, 2003, 6:08 PM
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In reply to: R&I just seems to be about rock climbing now. Watch for a leather ice boot review in the January issue of R & I. -Nubbler
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njbourne
Nov 26, 2003, 6:19 PM
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Don't remenber reading about them in Climbing but the G-14's are awsome. IMO they are the best all around crampon. Put the mono point on and give it hell.
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alpiner
Nov 26, 2003, 6:26 PM
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In reply to: Watch for a leather ice boot review in the January issue of R & I. Oooh, we can hardly wait for your re-hashed press release. If you are reviewing leather boots, it's already outdated.
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reno
Nov 26, 2003, 6:28 PM
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In reply to: So I had a badass pair of M-10's then those bastards at TSA jacked them and I am now without a good technical crampon. No, no no... You should contact the TSA admin office and demand (don't ask... demand) the return of your crampons or the cash equivalent (you got the reciept, right?) If you don't have the receipt, then you will need to get a price quote for a comparable style (this can be done at a local climbing shop, on-line, etc.) Get several quotes from different places (i.e. one from REI, one from the local shop, and two from on-line places.) TSA can prevent you from taking things on the plane, but they can not take your stuff without returning it.
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andypro
Nov 27, 2003, 1:22 AM
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I'd try to get them back. And dont be nice about it. I'm not saying be an asshole. That wont get you anywhere. They'll be lsot forever. but be stern and unforgiving.
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punk
Nov 27, 2003, 3:05 AM
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On the same note of boots comparability Is anyone experienced a welt wear down to a point that the crampons starets slipping off the boots…it happened once or twice on my 6 years old Nepal Top ( that still looking like they just came out of the shopping box despite wear on the front welt (the crampons bail in cut)) Anyway to deal with that?
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csoles
Nov 27, 2003, 4:04 AM
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That's the reason some crampons have that wire from toe bail to ankle strap. Other alternative is to build up an artificial lip; lot a work and easy to mess up, best to have a pro do it. Or get new boots like the Asolo Summit, way nicer.
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the_iowan
Dec 11, 2003, 3:55 AM
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punk - take them to a cobbler and they can fix it. i see you are located in seattle and there are two very good cobblers near - Dave Page and John Ramuta. I've been using Ramuta the for a couple years now and have yet to be dissappointed - simply outstanding work.
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