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climbhigh2005
Dec 24, 2003, 11:12 PM
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Anyone else dance too?? I've taken jazz, ballet, and modern for 12 years.. and am captain of the dance team... I really think dance comes in handy for climbing... good balance, flexibility, etc...
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elliemae
Dec 29, 2003, 2:26 PM
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I've taken ballet, jazz, and tap for 12 years. I also did pointe ballet for 7 years. I agree that dance helps you with balance and flexablitiy. I also think that wearing pointe shoes for a hour and a half while dancing on your toes helps make climbing shoes seem more comfy haha. ~Steph~
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powerpuff
Dec 29, 2003, 3:51 PM
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I'm a dancer too...been dancing since I was 3. You're right, after suffering through pointe shoes, climbing shoes are a breeze - much easier to take them on and off and they haven't made my feet bleed yet! :)
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elliemae
Dec 29, 2003, 4:11 PM
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Ya climbing shoes haven't made my feet bleed yet and they sure don't pull my skin off when I take them off. I laugh at the guys when they whine about how much there feet hurt in there shoes. ~Steph~
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calamity_chk
Dec 29, 2003, 4:44 PM
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as soon as i get out of the debt-hole of the century, i plan to learn how to belly dance and the salsa. though, there are several 'ethnic dances' (i hate that phrase) that i'd like to learn over the next year or so - hell, i might even learn to jitterbug just for kicks. ;)
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jabtocrag
Dec 29, 2003, 4:55 PM
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In reply to: there are several 'ethnic dances' (i hate that phrase) that i'd like to learn over the next year or so - hell, i might even learn to jitterbug just for kicks. ;) I never knew the jitterbug was an ethnic dance!! :lol:
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calamity_chk
Dec 29, 2003, 5:37 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: there are several 'ethnic dances' (i hate that phrase) that i'd like to learn over the next year or so - hell, i might even learn to jitterbug just for kicks. ;) I never knew the jitterbug was an ethnic dance!! :lol: that's because you come from a culture and widespread belief that assumes it to be appropriate to label other cultures while assuming that your's is the norm. define ethnic dance for me and then tell me about the jitterbug.
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jabtocrag
Dec 29, 2003, 9:59 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: there are several 'ethnic dances' (i hate that phrase) that i'd like to learn over the next year or so - hell, i might even learn to jitterbug just for kicks. ;) I never knew the jitterbug was an ethnic dance!! :lol: that's because you come from a culture and widespread belief that assumes it to be appropriate to label other cultures while assuming that your's is the norm. define ethnic dance for me and then tell me about the jitterbug. The term ethnic is typically used to describe a large group of people with common heritage (be it racial, religious, national, etc) that differs from your own. An ethnic dance would be one that is unique to a culture other than your own. I know little about dance, but I thought the jitterbug began in the U.S. during the jazz era. That is my heritage, so therefore it would not be ethnic (to me) and I would never refer to it as so. I also made the assumption that you too fall into this category of U.S. nationality. If you're either from another nation or have strong ties to your non-U.S. ancestry, I concede. If I'm wrong, so be it. Either way, you're far too hostile and really need to chill out. IT WAS A JOKE!!
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calamity_chk
Dec 29, 2003, 10:32 PM
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i'm not being hostile, i just didnt see humor in your joke - perhaps the fact that i explicitly stated that i hated the phrase 'ethnic dance' wasnt clear enough for you. anyways, off the deadhorse and back to the topic.
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indigo_nite
Dec 29, 2003, 11:59 PM
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though it's been a while, west african dance and salsa. I'm usually in my left brain but I feel dance/music and climbing in the flow is right brained activity. something about instinct over intellect (not recommending stupidity here) seems to pay off in climbing. it could be related to a zen meditation thing too. when walking on the ground, (like in a straight line or on a plank) my balance is pretty bad but something about the focus required on rock, my balance gets alot better on face climbs. I have not figured this out.
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psalmadventurer
Dec 30, 2003, 2:54 AM
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I've taken some ballet too. It definitely helps with balance, and focus, I think. Ballet is kind of like climbing for me, when it comes to focus. when I dance, pray, or climb, my focus rests entirely on one thing, the rest of the world just fades in to the back of my mind.
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crazygirl
Dec 30, 2003, 3:42 PM
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I've never heard jitterbug described as an ethnic dance. It is often described as having african influence, but influence is a different concept, than 'ethnic dance'
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iamthewallress
Dec 30, 2003, 7:25 PM
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I've been dancing all my life. One of my favorite fantasies is that once I've paid off all of my bills here, I'll move to Vegas and dance for my money and climb at red rocks in my spare time. I studied ballet until I was 19 and quit after about 6 months of professional dancing (for school). I did african/dunham in college, and took up ballroom when I moved out west, although I haven't done much for a while. My ultimate fantasy dancing gig would be Project Bandaloop though! If you've never seen them, I highly recommend checking out their web site. Incredible!
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addictedtocrack
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I too have taken years of ballet and a few [years] of modern dance and jazz. I must agree with the majority here...it is very beneficial for climbing to have some dance background. Although I have never taken gymnastics, I would also think that it too would be an attribute for balance, strength and agility. At one time in my life (early to late teens) I too wanted to be either a Rockette or a Las Vegas Showgirl. Since then I redirected my focus to one of the "Fly Girls" from IN LIVING COLOR (remember them?) and now, the Bandaloop team looks awful inviting. But I settle (to where my love is) for the weekend climbing trip with the family and my dearest "Crackaddict"! :D IAMTHEWALLRESS: what is the website for "Project Bandaloop"? My dh has a video of them...thet I have watched often...and he saw them at a job site he was working on one time in Scottsdale, AZ.
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jasminx
Jan 28, 2004, 4:21 PM
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[indigo]Yup, me too - my mum put me in Ballet classes as a child as I was somewhat gangly and accident prone! It worked - I kept up the dancing and have even made a living from it back in my student days. :oops: )It definitely uses the same principles as climbing, as it requires all the muscles to work together in harmony, rather than focussing on targeted areas of the body. Which is nice, cos I like to bump and windy grind! (And as I don't get to climb very often these days I like to think boogieing helps keep everything ticking over.) xxx Jasminx :P xxx[/indigo]
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i choose [i:77f5835f52]dignity[/i:77f5835f52] over dancing. now, ladies, don't fly off the handle thinking i'm calling you undignified. quite the opposite, actually. you see, i am a plain-vanilla white boy with a serious birth defect: my rhythm gene is missing. completely and utterly absent. nada. zip. oh, you really can't tell anything is wrong just by [i:77f5835f52]looking[/i:77f5835f52] at me. but get me on a dance floor and people start calling 9-1-1 and trying to shove a spoon in my mouth so's i don't swallow my tongue. it's pretty sad, really. but there [i:77f5835f52]is[/i:77f5835f52] hope. and [i:77f5835f52]you[/i:77f5835f52] can help. please give generously to the dance aphasia foundation. thank you.
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katydid
Jan 28, 2004, 8:46 PM
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Ex-ballerina. Off and on for 12 years. And some ballroom just for fun. Then I dislocated my knee. I can do barre, but I can't do a lot of the centre stuff any more. Pointe's right out. Took me a while to learn to toepoint climbing, since my natural inclination was to turn out. I size my climbing shoes 3 - 3-1/2 sizes down from street, to fit my narrow heels. The climbing shop people tend to reel their jaws back in after I tell them I used to do ballet. :twisted: k.
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climbhigh2005
Jan 28, 2004, 10:18 PM
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Speaking of dancing, I have always been in an intermediate class at my studio and adv, but I liked performing in the intermediate class because I was always front center... LOL not being conceded, but you know what I mean, well this year I am in the advanced class, and I am more well lets just say not front center... it made me think about climbing, and how no where in climbing is anyone ever front center.. ya ya.. tell me to shut up now!
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litleclimberchick
Jan 28, 2004, 10:32 PM
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i never took any dance classes, but i did take gymnastics for a while. i think that both could help with climbing if you need to increase your flexability and balance.
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dancesonrocks
Jan 29, 2004, 1:20 AM
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despite my board name, I've never taken intensive dance classes, just some here and there: jazz, west coast swing, modern and social (clubbing etc). I definitely think all dance training would be an asset though. And gymnastics, yeah that's probably the best background to have to take into climbing. The biggest help to my climbing came from my fencing training. I've got strong flexible legs because of that, especially my hamstrings. Fencing helped arm strength a little too but not really the same muscles that we use as climbers. Finger strength on my weapon hand was probably improved as well. It's hard to tell because I was a competitve fencer before I got into climbing.
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froggy
Feb 2, 2004, 9:57 PM
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I was a professional Ballet dancer from the age of 8 till about 16. It help climbing tremendously! The discipline and ability to tell your body what to do is invaluable! :D + It really helps with the pain thing too... Shoes don't feel soooooo bad :wink:
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climberterp
Feb 3, 2004, 1:10 AM
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yeah, climbing shoes are nothing compared to pointe shoes! :P Plus, being able to stand on pointe in climbing shoes is a very valuable technique when you are not a tall climber :wink:
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climbhigh2005
Feb 3, 2004, 2:59 AM
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In reply to: I was a professional Ballet dancer from the age of 8 till about 16. It help climbing tremendously! The discipline and ability to tell your body what to do is invaluable! :D + It really helps with the pain thing too... Shoes don't feel soooooo bad :wink: wow! professional at only 8? where at?
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rvega
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I danced almost my whole childhood from about 3 till I was 16, then I quit. I quit dance because my teachers were horrible for my self-esteem. They encouraged us to be as skinny as possible and weighed us every week. I was 93 pounds (5.1) until I quit and trained so hard that I would pass out from malnutrition and exhaustion. I didn't get my period until I was 17 as a result. My team won National Champs three years in a row, but I don't think it was worth it at all. I still cringe when I see pictures of myself back then. I don't think this is true of all dancers but a majority of those I know have serious weight and eating disorders, drug problems, and relationship problems even after they stopped dancing. So the moral of this story...do it cause you love and do it in balance.
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climbhigh2005
Feb 3, 2004, 9:56 PM
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In reply to: I danced almost my whole childhood from about 3 till I was 16, then I quit. I quit dance because my teachers were horrible for my self-esteem. They encouraged us to be as skinny as possible and weighed us every week. I was 93 pounds (5.1) until I quit and trained so hard that I would pass out from malnutrition and exhaustion. I didn't get my period until I was 17 as a result. My team won National Champs three years in a row, but I don't think it was worth it at all. I still cringe when I see pictures of myself back then. I don't think this is true of all dancers but a majority of those I know have serious weight and eating disorders, drug problems, and relationship problems even after they stopped dancing. So the moral of this story...do it cause you love and do it in balance. I totally understand where you are coming from... Thats how ballet always was for me.. so this year I am just taking modern and jazz and am captain of dance team... I love dance, but when it gets to that point, its not fun anymore...
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