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climbingryan
Nov 28, 2003, 5:45 AM
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Hey you all. I was just wondering what you climbers perfere; ATC or Gri-Gri. I like the ATC because i feel more in control and is easyer for me in belaying a lead. But I like the Gri-Gri in belaying a top rope. So what do you all think???
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lollipopchic
Nov 28, 2003, 5:51 AM
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I prefer ATC for leading and gri-gri for toproping. But I think it all comes down to personal preference... By the way, what does this have to do with competition climbing?? or were you referring to the use of belay devices for competitions??
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andypro
Nov 28, 2003, 6:16 AM
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Gri-Gri when I know I'll be on a route for a while on toprope, when aid climbing (but then you gotta find soemthing to keep your belayer awake :lol: ) or TR soloing. ATC for normal run of the mill stuff. I'm thinkin I might be ditching the gri gri for a TRE though. Those things look nice...
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overlord
Nov 28, 2003, 8:38 AM
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i prefer grigri.
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realization
Nov 28, 2003, 4:48 PM
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I agree I prefer the ATC on Lead belaying, and normal "run of the mill stuff" and I prefer the Gri Gri on Top-rope...
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chadmartin
Jan 28, 2004, 7:43 AM
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I prefer ATC! The gri gri just doesn't have that personal touch! And you can't drink beer and use a gri gri at the same time! But if you can, let me know, and I will start using one!
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njari
Jan 28, 2004, 7:57 AM
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Definitely the ATC. A gri gri is too heavy and bulky to haul up a few pitches, and it doesn't even rap. My gym has 'em permanently attached to each toprope. This is probably their strongest application.
I might eventually turn it into a solo device, but until then, it's the ATC for me.
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wildduck
Jan 28, 2004, 8:55 AM
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atc on lead...
gri gri on top rope and beginers..
so, i've learnt that we tend to get lazy with the gri gri...
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dc
Jan 28, 2004, 9:31 AM
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In reply to: atc on lead... gri gri on top rope
i cant agree more...
however, the BD ATC-XP looks really nice..
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ajkclay
Jan 28, 2004, 12:45 PM
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atc all the way, hate gri-gri's, even for tr.
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boulder_monkey
Jan 28, 2004, 12:57 PM
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In reply to: I prefer ATC for leading and gri-gri for toproping. But I think it all comes down to personal preference...
yes doctor, i concur....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
~pz all! rock on!
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mustclimb69
Jan 28, 2004, 1:14 PM
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ATC... better feel and more versitile. not to mention a lot cheaper!
I would upgrade to a variable friction device similiar to the ATC-XP, or BRD just to be able to change friction depending on the load.
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deafclimber
Jan 28, 2004, 1:32 PM
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atc or reverso works for me.
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rrrADAM
Jan 29, 2004, 4:24 PM
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rrrADAM moved this thread from Competition Climbing to Gear Heads.
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climb_plastic
Jan 29, 2004, 6:02 PM
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ATC XP all the way. They're smooth and they catch really good. I'd use it for top rope in the gym too but they have the gri-gri's on the rope already. Gri-gri's are OK but they're bulky and slow.
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scubasnyder
Jan 29, 2004, 6:05 PM
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ATC is good for me
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chuffinator
Jan 29, 2004, 6:44 PM
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I use a Gri-Gri for sport climbing. The GRi Gri is more static because it locks the rope off immediately. When trad climbing I use an ATC. The ATC is more dynamic because the rope slides throught the device and it won't shock the gear as much.
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gregtrammell
Jan 29, 2004, 8:49 PM
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ATC for sure. Nothing mechanical about it. Leaves you in complete control of the rope.
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gregr
Jan 30, 2004, 12:47 PM
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ATC(XP)
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ajkclay
Jan 30, 2004, 1:41 PM
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okay, so people are talking about the xp, but what does it do that a normal everyday atc won't?
or is it just smoother?
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