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weasel
Feb 18, 2004, 5:49 PM
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I'm trying to get statistics for rock/ice deaths in colorado. I'm doing a school project to conclude if driving is more dangerous than climbing. I hope somone can help me!
-Eric
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pk
Feb 18, 2004, 5:52 PM
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conclusion:
Driving is more dangerous than climbing, thesis done.
P.K.
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allarounder
Feb 18, 2004, 6:11 PM
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See: Accidents in North American Mountaineering; American Alpine Club.
Also: Fourteenerworld.com. There's a dude on there who did some research a while back. Think he has a website that is linked from there. Forget his name. John something.
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granitegod
Feb 18, 2004, 6:38 PM
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Well, I agree that driving is probably more dangerous than climbing....but it would be difficult to prove statistically.
How many climbers ARE there in Colorado? Who knows....
How many deaths from climbing? You may find some data, but what about the out of shape 50 year old who has a heart attack on a 14er? Is he a climber? Or some kids scrambling unroped in Garden of the Gods, taking a 30 foot plunge? These may be reported in the media, but accurate counts of technical rock climbing injuries, and even deaths, in just one state, may be difficult to find.
Good luck.
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archie
Feb 19, 2004, 4:45 PM
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try looking at the current issue of Accindents in North American Mountaineering found in places like REI and EMS. they have statistical info on the back of their cover.
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timstich
Feb 22, 2004, 12:50 AM
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In reply to: Well, I agree that driving is probably more dangerous than climbing....but it would be difficult to prove statistically. How many climbers ARE there in Colorado? Who knows.... How many deaths from climbing? You may find some data, but what about the out of shape 50 year old who has a heart attack on a 14er? Is he a climber? Or some kids scrambling unroped in Garden of the Gods, taking a 30 foot plunge? These may be reported in the media, but accurate counts of technical rock climbing injuries, and even deaths, in just one state, may be difficult to find. Good luck.
You could conceivabley include hiker deaths in with the actual climber deaths and I'll bet you still won't even approach the death rate from driving. In fact, you could lump deaths from cave diving, base jumping, mountain biking, surfing, and paragliding in with climbing and not get halfway to deaths from car accidents.
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weasel
Feb 22, 2004, 4:01 AM
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that's true, but it still doesn't mean driving in more dangerous. It's the RATIO of climbing deaths to driving deaths that counts. because there are many times more drivers than climbers.
Eric
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itakealot
Feb 22, 2004, 4:24 AM
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In reply to: See: Accidents in North American Mountaineering; American Alpine Club.
This is the best book/resource for researching mountaineering accidents.
Happy icefall!
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timstich
Feb 23, 2004, 2:12 AM
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In reply to: that's true, but it still doesn't mean driving in more dangerous. It's the RATIO of climbing deaths to driving deaths that counts. because there are many times more drivers than climbers. Eric
And time spent driving in one's lifetime is going to far exceed time spent climbing.
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