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glockaroo


Mar 24, 2002, 9:36 AM
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A while back when I bought my latest lead rope the Edelweiss "stratos" 10.5 was considered the favorite rope for bigwall work, mostly due to its cut resistance and durability.

I have been happy with my stratos, but it is tired and the time has come to get a fresh lead line. My climbing focus is aid/walls, with some trad feeclimbing thrown in.

So to all you wall honedaddies out there: is the Stratos still considered the king rope for aid, or has something else usurped that position?



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Well, I don't know if it's still the King 'o The Hill, but I have two and plan on buying the Stratos as long as I can get them. I think they are the shit! Granted, I've only done one wall with mine, but I must say, they have survived Josh quite well. I don't use them out here anymore. They are too expensive to get eaten alive by Josh rock.


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I just got the Mammut 11mm Flex. Pretty beefy, with lotsa fiber in the sheath. Rated at 14 falls, plus edge-tested. Yee-Hah! Big air time!

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Mike,
The Stratos is a great rope! I have a Mamut Supersafe (gotta love that name ) and I am very happy with it . I am not sure on the prices, but both ropes are excellent choices, I would go with the one that is cheaper (I chose on which could be ordered in time for a trip).

Jeff


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The 10.2 Mammut SuperSafe is more expensive than the 11 Mammut Flex. About the same for UIAA falls and edge falls. The SuperSafe has some sort of coating (teflon?) that gives it good edge protection in a light rope. For me, though, the cheaper price of the 11mm Flex was better. And a bigger rope on long jugs gives me something bigger to GRIP when I'm up there, gripped.

Besides, one or two pounds is NOT going to make any difference on my 18-years-on-the-couch ascent of the Excalibur. I'll lose that much weight out the leg of my pants on the first pitch, the Sacherer Cracker, at 5.10 8-0

I think Mammut should make an 11mm SuperSafe, for people like me. 21 Falls. A dozen edge tests. Yee-Haw! How 'bout freein' them Excalibur offwidths, eh? Got them Freney boots to do it.


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Fat and long, boys .... fat and long......


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PTPP, is that a request or a statement? - Jes kidding!!! I agree with fat and long. My rope of choice is Edelweiss Stratos and some BD 11mil that I can't remember the name of. The Stratos is so bad-ass that I pretty much just use it for hauling and a back-up lead line if necessary.

Of course, I have yet to climb a wall that required a third rope. I've only done a few "easy" trade routes.

Fat and long, 60 m/11 mil makes the most sense to me.


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O.K. So I blew the call I still like my rope even if it isn't fat (it did, after all, survive me falling 15ft onto my ascender! ) Besides I'm not fat either!

Jeff


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