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So my girlfriend and I are thinking about climbing lurking fear this summer. She's a vegetarian and I'm having difficulty coming up with ideas for food she can eat. I'm used to beef jerky and spam so... any ideas?


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There are some ready to eat asian food packages out there that are good, might be vege. Can't remember the name right now...

Beans and cheese!

The only meat I usually eat on walls is some jerky, tuna, and maybe chilly. Standard vege fare should be fiine, just get lots of protien. protien supplement bars like MET-RX bars might be good.


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There are some ready to eat asian food packages out there that are good, might be vege. Can't remember the name right now...

Tasty bites.

And they are my big wall food of choice, they have regular meat jobs, veggy, and even vegan.

They are soooooo, well, Tasty!

josh


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If you are not to worried about weight cans of black beans, refried beans and lentil soups work great. Even cans of raviolis without meat sauce, all can be eaten cold also.


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Dude, keep dem beans away from your veggie partner! You will suhhhfuuuh!

If she is not a total vegan try...

Jell-o pudding cups (have animal products)
Cheese and crackers in the little packets
String cheese (good for a day or so)
Yogurt bars (wad em up, easier to "get down" than power bars and have some protein)
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Little Debbies, in particular oatmeal cream pies
Try a tupperware container with some fruit and veggies.

Wish I knew what tastee bites were or where to get them earlier.

Don't let her go crazy on hard-to-eat "energy bars" because after a hard day's work, these are hard to eat.

I lived for four days on the above listed crap, minus cooked food or tastee bites, and was fine. You guys should be done much sooner than that, so don't make a huge deal out of it. She won't die...of starvation, anyway.

-Kate.


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dehydrated mashed potatoes. every irish climber's mainstaple! :lol:


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She won't die...of starvation, anyway.

-Kate.

HAHAHA holy cow, talk about a confidence booster!


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There are some ready to eat asian food packages out there that are good, might be vege. Can't remember the name right now...

Tasty bites.

And they are my big wall food of choice, they have regular meat jobs, veggy, and even vegan.

They are soooooo, well, Tasty!

josh

Yes but after a day or two your poop tube smells and looks like curry, and when you open the next packet of curry that looks like it might as well have come out of the poop tube, well, the apetite for Tasty Bites dwindles.


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Chef Boyardee Cheese Tortelleni (read ingredients, there is only one veggi chef boyardee AFAIK)
3 bean salad / veggi chili / cans of kidney or garbanzo or whatever beans
canned soup
soy jerky (makes ya thirsty though)
fruit in tupperware is great
string cheese
get toothpaste style squeezable tubes for jam and peanut butter and take some bread in a tupperware, works great.

...some ideas...


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Well, the name of the climb is lurking fear...

I take it back, tho, not something to joke about.


-Kate.


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So my girlfriend and I are thinking about climbing lurking fear this summer. She's a vegetarian and I'm having difficulty coming up with ideas for food she can eat. I'm used to beef jerky and spam so... any ideas?

Some that haven't been mentioned

Spaghetti-O's or similar canned pasta product
Veggie Chili
Granola, nuts, dried fruit mixed with either canned fruit or canned milk.
Canned fruit...It's the best thing when you're tired, thirsty, and in need of sugar.
Canned fruit...worth saying again.
Starbucks double shots.
Cliff bars or anything of that nature.
Tupperware with cubes of cheese good for a couple of days.
Burritos...tortillas, canned salsa (go to the mexican section) and beans.

Some things to avoid...

Copious amounts of unsalted nuts. Taste like paste when you're tired and thirsty.
Peanut butter...see above.
The spiciest tastee bites. They taste better on the ground.


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dehydrated mashed potatoes. every irish climber's mainstaple! :lol:

really? post your wall resume sport.


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heh. Andrew knows that my wall resume is nada, but I am a veggie, so here goes...

Textured vegetable Protein is the shit. inexpensive and it almost instantly rehydrates when you mix it with water, hot or cold. Mix that shit up with beans ro rice and stuff on tortillas... $$$.


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I think his point is that most people don't want to reconstitute dehydrated food on a wall. Cause it uses precious water, and you don't want dehydrated food when you have a dehydrated mouth.

Although I have mixed humus on a wall to eat with cheese and tortias and it was pretty good.


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i eat a ton of textured vegetable protein on mountaineering trips, but i wouldn't bring it on a wall. i want to eat wet food out of a can as quickly as possible.


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someone mentioned jello, so i thought i'd throw this out .. jello now makes little plastic tubes of jello, similar to the icy-pops that we all had as kids. they're usually in the frig section and may be subject to regional distribution, but i love em because they take up less space than the jello cups and they're a little juicier, which rules.


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Avoid the Tiny Vomit Pieces on a wall. I'd say anywhere even.

Dried tofu works much better than TVP in my experience on long trips, but I don't think I'd like it on a wall for the same reason that atg says.

Pasta with pesto sauce is tasty and easy to make! Blocks of parmesan cheese keep for a much longer time in hot weather than other cheeses. I find that it's strength is strong enough to be pleasant. but not too strong to be off-putting.

Canned fruit and corn.

Peanut butter too dry for me...
Homus, or dried homus.

A thermos of miso soup or somesuch.


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dehydrated mashed potatoes. every irish climber's mainstaple! :lol:

really? post your wall resume sport.

come again?


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somehow i just don't think anyone would really eat dehydrated mashed potatoes on a multiday big wall where water is at a premium and stoves are very often left on the ground. it makes less than no sense.


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Here it goes : I have no bigwall experience, but I do have trekking experience, where you also need food wich is nutritious and light.

First of all, if you eat less protein for 4-5 days of your life, you won't die. Besides, you should instead concentrate on good quality fuel (carbs).

So here are examples of what I bring on my trips (everything is vegan)

Nuts, lots of nuts

Breakfast :
Home made energy bars (e-mail me if you want a good recipe)

Lunch:
Home made energy cookies (e-mail me if you want a good recipe)

Dehydrated fruit (bananas are easy to dehydrate and are high in potassium) You can also buy dehy fruit a your grocery store.

For dinnner : Dehydrated spagetti sauce (have you heard of Yves Veggie ground round? Use that instead of meat in your sauce. Don't put vegetables in it, or if you do, cut'em up real small or else they wont dehydrate)

Dehydrated veggie chili : Also withe Yves's veggie ground round. BTW, ground your kidney beans, they dehydrate better and it reduces dreaded flatulence

rice and lentils

Bread and cheese they're heavy but oh so good!!

Herbal tea and honey for drinks...you'll drink more since it tastes good...

Well that's about it, Oh yeah, for dehydration, no need to buy a dehydrator, spread the spag sauce, chili or bananas on a large shallow pan and put in the oven at 150 degrees with a 2''-3'' wooden block to keep the door opened so that the moisture can evaporate out of the oven.


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Tasty bites.

And they are my big wall food of choice, they have regular meat jobs, veggy, and even vegan.
Josh, Tell me it ain't so. I hope we don't have to curry the Hali. I get one meal of curry in me a month and you don't want to be around :lol:


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Here it goes : I have no bigwall experience, but I do have trekking experience, where you also need food wich is nutritious and light.

the no big wall experience is painfully obvious. your recommendations are all awful for a big wall. please repost this on http://www.carryingabigpackonatrailnearariver.com


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ah, I think I see where you are trying to come from slick. OK, I've climbed only a handful of "big walls." I live in Alaska, where big walls are rather inaccessable, and much more dangerous and remote than anything in Utah. You should feel right proud of yourself, being a true "big wall climber," we are all miscreants and lowly-wanna-be's compared to the great andrew graham.

I am a mere alpine climber, which I guess doesn't count for anything because its not "big wall."

You've got this horribly elitist attitude that I feel compelled to address, but I think I will leave it be. I understand why dehydrated potatoes could be a pain on a big wall. Thanks for your condescending trash, asshole.

Maybe instead of being a dick and getting off on shooting other people down, you could perhaps contribute some of your infinite "big wall" wisdom here and tell us what YOU eat on a big wall, or maybe even WHY you feel so compelled to mock the contributions of others.

Right now, all you are is an annoying buzzer, a harsh and abnoxious gong. Why not put that oversized ego of yours aside and tell us what would constitute good food on a wall?

Since "big wall" seems to be the only thing that andy from salt lake will let us talk about here, I'll put in my two cents (and that's about all its worth) of big wall experience. I take two MRE's per day on walls. They require little water, little effort, they are light, organized, compact, and full of an array of good energy and nutrients. Also, they come made specially for vegetarians.


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snipped a lot of whining

Since "big wall" seems to be the only thing that andy from salt lake will let us talk about here, I'll put in my two cents (and that's about all its worth) of big wall experience. I take two MRE's per day on walls. They require little water, little effort, they are light, organized, compact, and full of an array of good energy and nutrients. Also, they come made specially for vegetarians.

well considering this is the aid forum..not the alpine forum, and the original post was for vegetarian food to take up a big wall.. well you should take your hurt feelings to www.pretendingwecarewhatyousay.com

all this stuff has been pretty useful, id think that having a good amount of variety for whatever you bring would be best, so you won't get sick of the same thing over and over. though i imagine you have your wall comfort food. and the pitfall of trying to be too varied could end up half the stuff not being eaten.


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go smoke some more crack, dickhead. and feel free to butt right in to my conversation. it is your buisness after all.

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