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shamslam
Jan 15, 2002, 1:29 AM
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Why in the hell would anyone use these stinkin things? Trinuts by Omega Pacific have to be the most worthless trad protections around. I've seen them slip out of some of the firmest sets and they are a royal pain in the neck to place.
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addiroids
Jan 15, 2002, 2:31 AM
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Agreed. Trying to make a nut versatile like a hex. Dumb idea, and they are heavier too. I looked at them at the PBC and almost laughed at the guy working the booth. Then took a free poster. TRADitionally yours, Addiroids
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crackwhore
Jan 15, 2002, 12:04 PM
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hilarious... ditto addiroids.
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Tricams are very useful in irregular cracks found on limestone routes.Also are a cheap alternative for horizontal cracks.Cams are great but they no brains to place!
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andy_lemon
Jan 15, 2002, 5:05 PM
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roc-ray: They are talking about tri-nuts, not tri-cams. Tri nuts were created for a firm placement in off-width cracks. They fit only a few selected cracks Perfecto'. Besides for a handfull of splinterplacements they are worthless, heavy, and more expensive than a regular nut. Great question though... I once asked this same question. I received mostly the same answers too! "Heavy, expensive, don't fit worth poop!"
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zlipper
Jan 16, 2002, 2:19 PM
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yeah the tri nuts were just to much of a pain in the neck and too expensive
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krustyklimber
Jan 26, 2002, 11:40 AM
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Thanks to y'all for the beta! Those guys almost got my money Jeff
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ammon
Apr 14, 2004, 6:09 PM
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I disagree guys. I haven't used them in granite, yet. In fact the only cracks I used them in were sandstone. But, I was able to get placements that I couldn't get a regular nut to work. Try them in the funky insipient cracks in Zion and then tell me their worth. I'll be taking them to Yosemite to try them out in the pin scars on El Cap in a few weeks. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers, Ammon
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In reply to: Why in the hell would anyone use these stinkin things? Trinuts by Omega Pacific have to be the most worthless trad protections around. I've seen them slip out of some of the firmest sets and they are a royal pain in the neck to place. I've never seen one of them mofo's. Anybody got a picture of one so I can have a laff :twisted:
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ammon
Apr 15, 2004, 8:54 PM
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http://omegapac.com/...umb_rock_trinuts.gif
In reply to: I've never seen one of them mofo's. Anybody got a picture of one so I can have a laff Laugh at what? These things might not be the ideal piece for the "classic" bottle-necked "V" crack...... but, they definitely have their place in the climbing world. Like I said, "I COULDN'T GET ANYTHING ELSE TO WORK"..... therefore, saving me the last resort of placing a bolt. Cheers, Ammon
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Well thanx for the piccy. I had a good long look at them, and I can see what kind of placement they would suit, but I think the tri-cam used as a passive nut would do the job similarly well, and they have other uses. The trinut dont look like it would cam, and in a parallel sided crack it would not have a very large contact area, so for the majority of placements it would not be suitable. Still laughing, I'm afraid, you been had :shock: Nice website though :D
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coylec
Apr 16, 2004, 4:37 AM
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When you put yours up for sale, lemme know -- i'll help you get some of your money back. i wanna try 'em out -- could be useful. coylec
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krustyklimber
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I'm back.... I now own a set of these trinuts, and I have to agree with Ammon, they definitely have their place in climbing, and on my rack. I recently tried them in a classic thin granite crack problem we run laps on at Index' Lower Town Walls, I liked them very much. I can see in a less than ideal placement they could "roll off" the narrow side, but they will fit so well in straight forward placements, and free up a set of nuts to use in less than ideal placements, so I will haul them along regardless of weight... The wire is a bit stiff for cammed placements (like you'd use a hex or tricam) but I feel a lot better about thrashing the wires of these, instead of my Camalot cables, in a horizontal placement. Did Omega Pacific set the world on fire with these? I don't think so.... but then we thought Frost nuts were kinda stupid, and skated around too much in cracks when they first came out, and we were pretty sure the wire cables were going to prove unweildy and would fray out in no time at all. We were wrong then... And with just a few minor improvements (like a curve) they became the standard. I am glad to be test driving a set of these, I'll try to add what feedback I can, as my experience with them grows. I am willing to give them an objective testing. Krusty http://pages.prodigy.net/.../emoticons/wave1.gif
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andypro
Apr 16, 2004, 4:54 AM
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I dont know why everyone is laughing. I think they're far from useless. How many people on this thread that are badmouthing them have actually used them more than once or twice, let alone at all? On the limestone I climb on, I find them invaluable. I havn't had a chance to try them out on any other kinds of rock yet, but I really like them so far. They stick all kinds of places where a normal nut would be mank, and even in normal placements are just fine. Dont knock em till youve tried em, and if you canrt get em to stick...practice a little more. They're not cams for gods sake.
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galf
Apr 16, 2004, 6:43 AM
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Ammon, When you're talking about that otherwise impossible placement, was it a small trinut or a big one. (the set is a whopping 15 pieces :shock: ) I'm guessing a rather small one.... ? Cheers, Guillaume P.S. did you try a HB offset and only the trinut worked?
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Apr 16, 2004, 10:38 AM
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In reply to: P.S. did you try a HB offset and only the trinut worked? I would be interested in this too. Im normally climbing on limestone, and as you now this stuff can be very strange, so it needs strange protection. any experiences? qwert
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ammon
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In reply to: I'm guessing a rather small one.... ? Yeah, it was one of the smaller sizes. A regular nut or HB off-set wouldn't work because it was a very flared, shallow groove without any kind of taper. Did I mention I was on sandstone? I rotated the tri-cam until I found the exact size (all three sides are different) that fit. It was sticking WAY out...... I was aiding on the piece so I bounce tested it.... and was very surprised that it held. The contact wasn't the greatest but this was after I tried everything else on the rack...... so I went with it. Don't you hate when dicey placements stick? Cheers
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kinosoo
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how are the smaller sizes compared to the larger. these must be the most expensive nuts out there the sets like 143. there are sold in lg 9-14 ans small 1-8 if i were to get one which one
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rmsusa
Jul 21, 2005, 5:17 PM
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I disagree. I LOVE the small sizes and take a couple of sets everywhere I climb around Boulder. I've had a bit more trouble getting used to the larger sizes.
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