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yay_chris


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Hey, I have two sets of stoppers ranging from #3~#13 on my rack.

Did I basically waste my money with the other set? I bought it because I sometimes found myself needing the same stopper I've already placed. But, maybe some hexes would have been smarter.

Does anyone else here rack with 2 full sets of stoppers?


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I have one full set (#'s 4-13) and then doubles from 6-10. This usually works well for the routes i climb, as the big and small nuts don't get placed as much

Kevin


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Don't worry about it. A double set can be very useful and it doesn't weight or cost that much.


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Two sets of nuts can be very useful, but I chose two different types--BD stoppers and Metolius curved nuts--just because sometimes the BD work better than the Metolius, and sometimes vice versa. My regular climbing partner has one other brand, and so between us we usually can find a nut that will suit the situation.


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chances are you're going to lose stoppers along the way. You've just bought you're replacements ahead of time. If you feel you are carrying too much just carry a set and a half. It all depends on where you climb and what you climb. a bottle neck finger crack is obviously going to take alot of stoppers around the same sizes.


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I'd rather carry two sets of nuts rather than two sets of cams, unless I'm climbing a continuos parellel sided crack.


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:)


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Nope... I have almost 60 Stoppers, as 90% of my placements are stoppers, and I have 31 cams.

I have up to 6 of some size.


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Thats alot of cams and stoppers rradam :shock:

How many do you carry up a climb at any given time? Every time I get half way up a climb I always start wishing I brought just one more cam with me... :?


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lol, how many times do you think you've typed that comment, adam?

as to the question...nah, if you like the BD's and they work well in the area you climb (and they should...), then a double set cant hurt. i have a set of BD's and a set of HB offsets that I like...i usually carry small BD's, med in the HB and BD and then large BD or HB, depending on my mood.

pfft..too much gear, like thats possible!


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You should try to trade your set with someone who has 2 sets of DMM or Metolius...

You'd get more choices, and it wouldn't cost you an extra cent.


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Thats alot of cams and stoppers rradam :shock:

How many do you carry up a climb at any given time? Every time I get half way up a climb I always start wishing I brought just one more cam with me... :?


Depend on the climb... For multipitch when the book says it needs big stuff, all of it less a few cams and usually less the cow bells. If I know what size I need, I only take up to that size. I have not taken all my pro up a climb ever

Personally, I rack my stuff on my harness, and I like to have all sizes on each side of my harness, as this allows me to not have to try to reach gear on the other side of my harness than my free hand. I always have the right sized piece on the side I want it.


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two sets of stoppers good!
Two sets of different stoppers great!


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Naw, really depends on what you are willing to carry, and what else is on your rack. I have doubles of my #2-#6 WC Rocks because I find that around here it is useful to have doubles in that size. My $0.02


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too much is never enough


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Yeah, I'm a gear dog too.
double of nuts, I also have some exotics too, like those big bros'.

I quit when I started collecting glacier equipment and look around and noticed we don't have any glaciers here in NM. Well, I’m ready to join a trip with michaelmcguire in AK ( that dude with the awesome pics from way up north) or with someone, somewhere in Canada.

You never know when it might be used for rescue or something.

---Escale.


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I quit when I started collecting glacier equipment and look around and noticed we don't have any glaciers here in NM. Well, I’m ready to join a trip with michaelmcguire in AK ( that dude with the awesome pics from way up north) or with someone, somewhere in Canada.

You never know when it might be used for rescue or something.

---Escale.

It's always important to be prepared for the freak glacier appearance when climbing in the southwest.

john


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I usually just climb with my two large nuts.


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Did I basically waste my money with the other set?

No.


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