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funk29
May 10, 2004, 6:51 PM
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On Saturday it started raining around 5 appx. NBD right, were in the Northwest. It’s raining every other time I climb at Index. In fact some of my most memorable climbing days are in the rain. All the “climbers” were gone by the time we got off Princely Ambitions, cleared out. We started packing our things, and I said to Jim, I’m going to run over and see if any one left gear. Sure enough someone had bailed from half way up the serious nail up. I aided up Funked the gear and down aided in about 15 minutes. Sickness I know its like heinous A1+, It was so sketchy I had to pound in some LA’s. Booty Count, new metolius yellow tcu, small nut, three biners and a sling! Total Bootied Cams, Ten of thirty-two total. Ye Haaaaww! I am thankful to have rich climbers around who don’t mind bailing on new gear in a bit of rain.
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dave1
May 10, 2004, 7:20 PM
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Barley
Was one of those booty biners an older omega oval from the last bolt on the bolt ladder. If it was, David S. and I left it on thursday, but my guess is that someone would have gotten it by then. We didn't leave anything else. If you did get it, I would be warry of using it since I found it as a booty biner in Riverside, CA at Riverside Quarry last March, the day I got hit by rockfall. It may have bad karma (just kidding). We found 13 biners that day (ultimate booty call) and kept them as leaver biners, so if you found it, more power to you, congrats bro. I don't know the history of it beyond that so be cautious if you decide to use it as rock/rockfall at Riverside quarry is horrifically bad. There was no visible gear in the crack when I was on it (city park). If someone else got it, congratulations, hope you either enjoy it or destroy it, or better yet, enjoy destroying it!!!!
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funk29
May 10, 2004, 7:32 PM
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I think there was a couple parties on it Saturday.
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sarcat
May 10, 2004, 7:46 PM
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What ever you found or where ever you found it it's mine. Mail it ASAP please. Oh and anything you find in the future is mine too. Thanks,
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chalkyhandsman
May 12, 2004, 2:25 AM
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Did you by any chance find two nuts in the narrow crack to the left of the 9+ crux section of princly ambitions? My brother and I bailed off that route a week ago, but my guess is that they were bootied way before you got to it.
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lightandslow
May 12, 2004, 3:57 PM
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In reply to: I had to pound in some LA’s.
Why the hell did you pound pins on City Park :shock: ? That crack hasn't seen ironmongery in years, at least not w/out the person getting yelled at by other parties...no need to start now, eh? Hopefully you were just being sarcastic?
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p_grandbois
May 12, 2004, 4:03 PM
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Have some class, don't make the effort to rip people off. If you find it climbign or when no one has really been around for a while than take it. But really you just waited them out and poached their gear. Have some freaking class. I hate you guys that feed on people when they bail, maybe they have plans to get it when it is less dangerous.
One word for you and your kind THEIF!!!
Like I said it is different when you punk something while on the line or at the end of the day. Not feed on those who have to bail
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p_grandbois
May 12, 2004, 4:05 PM
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Just to clarify too, I have never had to leave gear behind, maybe I poick the right days to climb. This is not a rant out of experience either, but if someone punked some good gear from me I would find them. Give it some time before you steal, have ethics, and show some support
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funk29
May 12, 2004, 6:43 PM
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1. The truth is that I did not nail of that pitch of climbing.
“I hate you guys that feed on people when they bail, maybe they have plans to get it when it is less dangerous.” –little_philly
2. Aiding in rain is not dangerous.
3. Taking gear that another person left in on a pitch while bailing is not Stealing!
I love free climbing with a hammer and pins! - m barley
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p_grandbois
May 12, 2004, 7:03 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night funk.
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lightandslow
May 12, 2004, 11:19 PM
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If they're gone it's not stealing.
Now, if you bumped into somebody in the parking lot it'd be a little (a lot?) sketch of you not to make sure it was their gear so you could give it back. But if nobody's around, it's booty.
I'm glad you didn't actually sink a couple LA's into City Park, that'd be criminal.
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bustloose
May 13, 2004, 4:02 AM
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'funk' people like you are fucking parasites. you're probably the kind of asshole that steals project draws and fixed lines... "duuuuuuh, if it's gots left in the walls, duuuuh, it's done free to taking for me, yuk yuk"
get a life, punk and buy your own fucking gear.
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funk29
May 13, 2004, 2:42 PM
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1. The post is obnoxious bragging.
2. To reiterate: When we got off of the multi pitch route there was not another climber there.
3. When we go to the index parking lot there were no other cars there.
3. It is stealing to take fixed draws off a sport route.
4. It is not stealing to take gear left mid pitch on a multi pitch climb, when there are no other climbers in the area.
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vertical_reality
May 13, 2004, 3:38 PM
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We should start an asshole of the year award.
I nominate this idiot.
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mackavus
May 13, 2004, 3:49 PM
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Instead of bitching at each other, lets just say who's side were on here... we all read the post and now just have to say who we agree with. I gotta tell you though I read the post and I am on funks side... and if it were me that left the gear up there... I would STILL be on that side of the argument. This is the way that climbing has been since it started people... that is why one of the biggest reasons that bailing sucks ass... cause you have to leave something behind and you are never going to see it again. Did any of you ever bail and actually expect to see your gear again? You dont write your name, address and phone number on it so that it can be mailed back do you?? Sorry, Im with the funk.
And I would suggest that people READ original posts before flaming the shit out of someone. Funk did not wait out for people to leave, and then go thieving. He and his party were the only people left there, and decided to go searching for left gear. Would you try to find the owner of a cam that you found out in the middle of the woods somewhere if there was no one else around?
Peace.
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vertical_reality
May 13, 2004, 4:02 PM
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In reply to: Would you try to find the owner of a cam that you found out in the middle of the woods somewhere if there was no one else around?
A couple of years ago I was with a guide at Seneca. Near the top I dropped one of his hexes. Next day he got it back from another guy who had found it.
At least there are some climbers that are decent human beings unlike you two nuck futs.
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funk29
May 13, 2004, 4:07 PM
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Yea, Yea!
It feels good to be a climber.
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vertical_reality
May 13, 2004, 4:14 PM
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mackavus
May 13, 2004, 4:31 PM
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WOOOOO HOOOOOOO! It sure is wicked sick to be a nuck fut!
Seriously though, you made a good point there vertical, but I think that if you leave somewhere along the climb, beacuse of bailing, that stuff is fair game man. Finders keepers, losers suck.
Peace.
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p_grandbois
May 13, 2004, 4:41 PM
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In the end of all this you are still s theif. you didn't buy the gear, you waited some guys out and took advantage. People of this sort are theifs, if you need to keep telling yourselves that you are still good people and that it is all fair game that go for it. You guys stick out like a sore thumb in a crowd. You are theifs and you might as well wear a sign. If the piece it their the next day grab it, post it. But you knew they were climbing their you saw them, you made the effort thinking they bailed you are a theif.
End of story
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vertical_reality
May 13, 2004, 4:55 PM
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In reply to: WOOOOO HOOOOOOO! It sure is wicked sick to be a nuck fut! Seriously though, you made a good point there vertical, but I think that if you leave somewhere along the climb, beacuse of bailing, that stuff is fair game man. Finders keepers, losers suck. Peace.
I don't see anything wrong with finding bootie while on a climb, but going after someone else's gear without giving them a chance to get it back is just being a dickweed.
The guys got caught in bad weather and bailed for safetys sake, probably thought "It's raining, I'll just go down and grab a bite to eat and come back when the weather clears to get my gear." Then asshole comes by and ruins his day.
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May 13, 2004, 5:03 PM
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Leaving gear when bailing basically the same as leaving it sitting in the parking lot with a 'Take Me' sign. If you leave it behind, it's gone... unless you get back to it first.
Now, that doesn't take into account the Karma of someone who may find booty and try to return it, but there really is no code of ethics which states that someone shouldn't go up and get left behind gear.
If you bail on something because it was over your head and someone with the skill to go get your gear does so then you're shit outta luck on that one.
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chronicle
May 13, 2004, 5:10 PM
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I've found gear and I've left gear. It's just a known fact that if you bail, don't expect to see your gear again. I've fumbled with a yellow TCU for 45 minutes before to get it out of a crack that someone left behind.
In reply to: If the piece it their the next day grab it, post it.
Because every climber in the world reads the posts on Rockclimbing.com right? Booty gear has been around since climbing started.
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valeberga
May 13, 2004, 5:15 PM
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haha I hope you are trolling dude because if not you are gonna have some serious ass-whupin trackin' you down. :lol:
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vertical_reality
May 13, 2004, 5:17 PM
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The point is, he wasn't even given the chance to get it back.
Climbing ethics? Isn't it ethical to show a little respect to a fellow climber?
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