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Hi there,

I'm frustrated with having to rely on people to help me tension my slackline. Today, I bought a come-along from Canadian Tire and was attempting to use it here at home. The one I bought is "supposed" to be used for tying down a car (is this the wrong kind?) Since I have no bolts bolted to my driveway ... how can I use it properly. This thing is pissin' me off. Oi. Anyone know of better come-along's or know of any easy way to use it? There were no directions accompanying it.

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Eric


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I think you may have what is called a 'binder'. A come-along is a mini-winch. A binder is device that can only pull up a short amount of slack.

Does your device have a reel of cable?


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I think you're right. My 'binder' has about ... 3 feet of webbing to tighten. Made me feel like a moron trying to use it :) haha
My device has no cable...just...the crank and the separate webbing. you're supposed to thread the webbing through the crank and start tightening. To clarify the crank has webbing attached to it and has a ... sort of carabiner at the end. The same "sort of carabiner" is found on the loose webbing... make sense?

Where can I find a mini winch?

Eric


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I found one here:

http://www.mytoolstore.com/...leadws&kw=come-along


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Cool, thanks.

Only thing is ... where do i clip it to? If i just have the two trees...three biners (2 clove hitched with gates opposite and 1 used to close the anchor) what am i supposed to clip the ends of the winch onto?


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If I were using the two trees, I'd probably get some scrap webbing.

Make two large slings. One for each tree.

Make one smaller loop for buffer between slackline and come-along.

Sling one tree, clib biner, clip into the slackline.

On the other end, sling tree, connect one end of come-along. Connect other come-along hook to small scrap webbing loop, clip biner, clip slackline.

Take up slack. Adjust position on tree, Tighten to preference.

some folks may make a cushion for use between the trees and slings from carpet or cardboard.


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sweett...thx a lot for your help
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katydid moved this thread from Trad Climbing to Slacklining.


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If I were using the two trees, I'd probably get some scrap webbing.

Make two large slings. One for each tree.

Make one smaller loop for buffer between slackline and come-along.

Sling one tree, clib biner, clip into the slackline.

On the other end, sling tree, connect one end of come-along. Connect other come-along hook to small scrap webbing loop, clip biner, clip slackline.

Take up slack. Adjust position on tree, Tighten to preference.

some folks may make a cushion for use between the trees and slings from carpet or cardboard.

me and my friends did this, and have had our line break 2 times, well not really the line but the webbing that connects the sling around the tree to the come-along. are we doing something wrong?


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me and my friends did this, and have had our line break 2 times, well not really the line but the webbing that connects the sling around the tree to the come-along. are we doing something wrong?

Uh, yeah. If your breaking webbing you are either:
A) using very old and used up webbing
B) setting it rediculously and dangerously tight and jumping on it - nylon isn't a tight rope, it's supposed to stretch.
C) not using mil-spec or better rated webbing

I use ratchet systems all the time and I've never had a line break - and I've set wickedy tight lines. Explain your setup and we might be able to pin point the flaw in your system.


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I think I figured out why we were breakin stuff, and that is because we were tightening it too much. We thought that they were supposed to be supa tight. The webbing was breaking at the knots. I also heard about a way to make a line alot stronger. You put 1/2'' tubular webbing inside the 1" tubular. That sounds like a good idea to me. Im gonna try it out as soon as i get back home in about a month. Thanks for helpin me out. Peace.

JOsh


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I think I figured out why we were breakin stuff, and that is because we were tightening it too much. We thought that they were supposed to be supa tight. The webbing was breaking at the knots. I also heard about a way to make a line alot stronger. You put 1/2'' tubular webbing inside the 1" tubular. That sounds like a good idea to me. Im gonna try it out as soon as i get back home in about a month. Thanks for helpin me out. Peace.

JOsh

Josh,

Tightness is a personal preference, but in general there is a reason the sport has the word "slack" in it.

Reinforcing webbing with another threaded peice will work, but it more serves as redundancy for safety than to increase the actual strength before it breaks.

Ie, 4,200 lb webbing / 2 (for hypothetical knot strength) + 2,000 lb test webbing /2 does not equal > 4,200 lb webbing / 2 (for knot strength) - but it is redundant.

The strongest not is no knot at all (you can sew the loops), or the knot actually called a "no knot" which is a friction hitch.


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Where can i find out how to tie a friction hitch?


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A quick search on google for "no knot" friction yielded lots of results.

Here's one of them:http://www.chockstone.org/.../Traverse.htm#NoKnot


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Wow. that makes it alot simpler. Thanks for all the help, it is much appreciated. Peace.


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