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climbnsocal


Jun 14, 2004, 2:18 PM
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i recently graduated high school on june 9th and my graduation present from my bro in law is to take me up el cap but i gotta choose the route iv only climbed 2 other aid routes lots of multi pitchs i redrock and zion and sport all over but i dont nw a whole lot about choosin routes lke this soif you have any sugestions emal me i would love to hear them any beta would help thankx

AUTO


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have him choose a route since you dont know much about aid climbing


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it depends .. do you want to lead .. or just jug-monkey the wall?

.. if you want to lead -- then pick a route that has lots of pitches at your aid lead level ..

.. if you're jut going to jug the route -- then pick a route that aesthetic .. and low traffic .. so you can enjoy your time on the wall ..

.. i'd pick something that starts steep .. so the hauling wont be a big PITA .. on the right side of the captn...

-- ricardo


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Your post is unintelligible. Mix in some English and you might get some better responses.


Partner holdplease2


Jun 14, 2004, 4:24 PM
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Gees, ed, what crawled up your arse? He got good responses, I thought.

Congrats on a cool graduation gift.

I haven't climbed enough of the routes to suggest one, but I might suggest getting familiar with how to clean and come up with good pro strategies for traverses and wandering lines, this will make your life easier. Until I got on the captain, all of my "practice routes" were logistically pretty simple, yours might have been as well.


-Kate.


iltripp


Jun 14, 2004, 4:46 PM
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Gees, ed, what crawled up your arse? He got good responses, I thought.

Sorry Kate, but I'm with Ed on this. Other errors aside, he wrote that entire post without a single period. Is it that hard to hit that little button that magically turns gibberish into complete sentences?? I dunno, maybe his keyboard is broke...


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Jun 14, 2004, 5:07 PM
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I think he as achieved the ideal if I could live my entire life without a period that would be great I wouldn't miss the mood swings, the bloating, you know

I was refering more to the fact that some of the answers seemed good than to whether or not I actually thought, with writing like his, that he would be capable of earning a graduation present... ;)

-Kate.


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Jun 14, 2004, 5:14 PM
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Furthermore

If you just found out you were getting to climb the captian for the first time, you'd probably be talking, thinking, and writing without pauses, too!

As I recall, that was the case. Ed? You're gonna be the same way in about a week...see you soon.

:)

-Kate.


epic_ed


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blah, blah, blah... if I could live my entire life without a period that would be great I wouldn't miss the mood swings, the bloating, you know...

-Kate.

:lol:

And, no, his post still doesn't make much sense. For example, what does this mean?

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... i gotta choose the route iv only climbed 2 other aid routes lots of multi pitchs i redrock and zion and sport all over.

HUH?! 180+ views and only a few responses.

See ya next week! (Sunday, maybe?)


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Jun 14, 2004, 6:47 PM
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Interpretation:

"I recently graduated high school on june 9 and my graduation present from my bro in law is to take me up el cap"


* Guy graduated from high school on june 9 - his brother in law has offered to take him up el cap as a present.

"but i gotta choose the route iv only climbed 2 other aid routes lots of multi pitchs i redrock and zion and sport all over"

* Guy has to select the el cap route to climb...he's only climbed two aid routes in the past, along with muiti-pitch climbs in red rocks and zion. He has climbed sport in several locations.

"but i dont nw a whole lot about choosin routes lke this soif you have any sugestions emal me i would love to hear them any beta would help"

* Guy does not know how to select a long aid route on el cap, but based on his experience listed, if we have any suggestions, please email him. He would love to hear those suggestions and any associated beta

"thanx"

* guy says thanks.

Hey guy, climb Zodiac, you're welcome.

See how easy that was?

The reason 180 people viewed but aren't responding is that all 180 viewers, minus responders are all simply boulderers who are curious about "a great route on el cap" but wouldn't know one if it bit them on their taut youthful arses (kidding here). But being boulderers, they knew precisely what he said. ;)

:)

Lovingly yours,

-Kate.


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You put a lot more effort into making sense out of the question than he put into asking it. Which is entirely my point.

But as for the question, I haven't found an El Cap route I can recommend yet. I've heard Zodiac is a real scream, though. :mrgreen:

Actually, if this guy hasn't aided much and he has a rope gun for a partner, The Nose may be the better option. If dude can free climb Yosemite 5.10 it would give him an opportunity to lead several pitches if he's up for it. On Zodiac he'd pretty much just be a jug monkey since there's not much free climbing under 5.13 and he likely wouldn't be ready to take the sharp end on any of the aid pitches.

How's that for an answer? Ya happy?

:P


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jesus, I never get a "lovingly yours"
sheesh


galf


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:D WOW! That was just my EBONICS class!

Thanks kate.


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Jun 14, 2004, 7:41 PM
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Yes, you have a good point about the Nose, Ed.

Hmm.

It could also be good from the aid standpoint, plenty of C1 for him to lead, wheras the crap on Zodiac can be a little sketch...

Perhaps the Nose then.

Depending on your free-climbing skill, and that of your partner, consider the Nose, then. Fabulous.

Not lurking fear (hauling sucks) maybe the trip (less crowded, but still)

-Kate.


epic_ed


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jesus, I never get a "lovingly yours"
sheesh

And you've never had her rip yer balls off, either. She can do both at the same time, ya know. It's all part of knowing and loving the inimitable hardwoman, Holdplease2. I'll take the good with the bad from her any day. :wink:


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Awww, shucks, Ed. Glad they got at least one of them sewn back on, yer gonna need it, 'cause next week... yer gonna diiiieeee!

Yeee hawww!

:)

-Kate.


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To holdplease2:

You have made my night with this thread, your parents' "freak accident", and your insightful analysis of the "butt grabbing spotter ethics" exchanges. Well done!

To borrow from a story title in an old HeavyMetal magazine, you are "So Beautiful, Yet So Deadly"


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Awww...thank you Mr. oldsalt, its been a lovely day for it. Even with dial up. :)

-Kate.


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Conformist elitist wan Abe English teachers
Get With IT

The guy is asking a question

this kind of criticism is the reason some great people dont bother contributing to this forum

Answer questions.

This site sucks ass....


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Jun 14, 2004, 10:49 PM
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Dude, this site rocks. We answered his question...which was a little hard to interpret, you must admit.

Ed and I were just playing, more hastling each other than hastling the kid that posted. He got great answers, I think, and maybe he should punctuate just a bit.

No offense intended to the guy.

-Kate.


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And, asking someone to help select an elcap route AND provide beta on it, well, thats asking for alot of work, really. The time it would have taken him to type a easy-to-read question isn't 5% of the time it would take someone to answer it...

If you are asking for "cool hat" beta, be a slob about it. If you want someone to help you pick a route on the captain and succeed, well, maybe be considerate of their time when you are asking for it.

So there, I guess.

Maybe this site does suck. Maybe I suck for making it suck.

***If I gave him el cap beta with the precision with which he asked his question, he would probably die up there.***

Something to consider, really.

-Kate.


notyetabigwaller


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Ok but this site is harsh and I think its not meeting its potential... having or making fun... at others expense.......thats just fine...and I just got a notice to chill or else id be banned.... must be 1984!


I log on every day and check out the site... most is good... I do refer people here often...I prob never will again bec of the threat and will just use the free aspect




be nice abswer Qs and lose the big brother act!

no loss to me


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