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topramen


Jun 17, 2004, 6:31 PM
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Hello everyone

I was looking at a portaledge that seems to solve BD skylounger lack of a bed tensioner. http://www.edgarsec.com/ledge.html. What do you guys think of this design.


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The last time I was @ BD they said they were scrapping their current PL designs to revamp. I think they are fixing this problem.


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Jun 17, 2004, 6:44 PM
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Pretty cool.

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That looks really groovy. Who is making them?


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Good Design. I used to climb with a guy that worked in a machine shop and came up with a similar design, hinge wise. This solution to the width stabilizers is a little more clever than his. We used a couple of his prototypes setting climbs in El potrero, and destroyed a couple doing so.

Some concerns/ideas/improvements needed before I would seriously consider this as an option:

Rolled hinge pins: adds expense, but this is always the point that broke on my friends when we were "product testing". Machine hex bolts don't have the strength, especially when you factor in that the hinge pin will get grooves from opening and closing. I am not in the market for a new ledge right now, but I wouldn't consider Thisuntil this is fixed.

I would assume this is also the weak point in the rating, which is too low. I weigh 195 without any gear. Stacking ropes, sorting gear, through some water jugs on the bed, and I can easily surpass the 250 rating. I have had my brother and I on my fish econoledge playing cards. Yeah, it bowed pretty good, but Russ makes good stuff, so I had no fears.

Last, I don't understand how this design actually "tensions" the bed. I can easily see that it keep the perimiter from creating an hour glass, all beddings that I have seen will sag eventually, given enough use. I have seen metolius's bed sag, and they have the spreader bar


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The p-ledge does look small & lightweight but I have to agree with zetedog about product testing and standard off the shelf hex bolts.

I'd swing with it from tree out in the front yard but DEPEND on it under severe conditions???

I'll take a bit of sag any-day.
Comfort is relative...

Remember hanging belay seats that gave ya splinters in yer rear?

Good luck with product testing & improvement.


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