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ropegirl


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Okay, this summer I'm going to do my first multi-day/big wall climb. I feel prepared in all ways except for one... I need tips (from women especially) about the best ways to answer nature's call on a big wall. (I know about the take-it-with-you ethic, and I've already built my poop-tube) but I'd appreciate some beta on how to take care of business discreetly. Any special tips or do I just have to be prepared to abandon my modesty.

Thanks!

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no, im not a girl, but i can give you some tips, actually not my own tips - but others, cuz there was a post some time ago (about a month) about this exact same issue. Im sure its in the "General" section, just go look for it. Hope you find what you need, for your sake.

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Let it fly and yell a dirty head's up. No just joking. what you let go "shall we say" you should carry down.

Their is a good book on the topic Called "How to sh#* in the woods" you might want to check out befour you go.

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Check the Aid Climbing forum for a topic on this. There's more to it than you may think. Probably more difficult than going on a spaceship in Zero Gravity.
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If modesty is a problem your partner should understand! Try to schedule "your business" for when your partner is someplace else, say at the belay below. Or if you are both on the ledge together, have them rapp down a little way and give you a "moment alone". And also a flannel shirt tied around your waist will work as a little "privacy curtain" for when you just can't wait.

Jeff

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its all about the flannel shirt curtain or a nice big towel. your partner will probably cooperate with you and understand that you need your primacy.


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I am SO into climbing now and yet I can't believe that I have never thought about the issue!
How do you take a dump or a leak 400 feet in the air with a rock ledge the width of a Twinkie.

I'll have to think about this for some more time. Just don't mess on yourself...

breathe stone
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Ah, the eternal question. First thing you have to do is get a harness with a drop seat. Then practice dropping the seat and then letting your pants down and letting loose without getting any on you, and definately don't get any on the portaledge. Your partner will thank you.

Also don't take a poop tube. They are antiquated technology. They are heavy and cumbersome and you actually have to use it to make it worth bringing it. If you check the aid forum you can find a thread on building a "wall flower". Although some people claim that it is the better way I am not yet convinced. What I believe to be the better way is to get a medium sized dry bag like rafters and kayakers use. Go to a local dog walking park and grab some of the poop bags that the city leaves for people to use to pick up their dogs poop with. These bags are biodegradable and are perfectly suited for carrying poop. Put some of these bags and some toilet paper and maybe some kitty litter all in separate zip lock bags in the dry bag and close it up and put in your haul bag. You know have a lightweight, yet fairly durable big wall shitter.

So you are on the wall and you have to go #1. You just find an out of the way place where nobody will be sleeping in the near future and just let it go. Now if you have to go #2 you find a scenic spot and drop your trousers and aim for one of those pooper scooper bags, wipe, throw a little kitty litter in there to keep the stench down and seal the bag and put it back in the dry bag and seal that bag up tight. Then when you get to the top you can burn the waste or dispose of it at an RV dumping site.

As far as your modesty goes. Make sure that you and your partner agree that "what happens on the wall, stays on the wall" Don't worry about them looking because believe me it is nothing anybody wants to see. They will gladly turn their backs and close their eyes and plug their ears while you do your thing on the ledge.

I hope everything comes out ok.


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Hey girl...

Try this nifty little device. It's called an FUD (Feminine Urinary Director). I believe they sell them at REI too.

http://www.mgear.com/pages/product/product.asp?level1_id=0&level2_id=0&level3_id=0&item=395061&level2_title=

Hope it helps!

~Erica

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Sorry mtngeo. I was at the AZ gathering. No gross-outs here.

The FUDs work in the way that a woman can pee standing up and direct the stream away from her instead of awkwardly squatting and risking peeing on herself at night.

How is works is (and you can see this in the link) a cup is placed in between the woman's legs close to her crotch. The cup has an opening and a tube directing outwards that functions as sort of a funnel. The urine stream is then directed outward and away from her.

If you can imagine her lying down or even on her side, the urine won't collect in the cup, but run over the edge. So she can't use it IN her sleeping bag, but she can surely shimmey half way out and kneel to use it. And I believe it can be tactfully directed into a bottle.




Or used to write her name in the snow.


Whatever works best.

~Erica


climberchic


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LOL!!

Nice.



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Here's a great idea... make sure you use an empty alcohol bottle (with a screw top), and always carry a 'speed pour' spout with you... in case of emergency, you can easily write your 'SOS' message in the snow. Whattya think? (Thanks for looking out for us girls, geo!)

On a serious note, thanks for the info on the FUD device, climberchic--I'll be purchasing one, soon... then I won't be so "pee'd" with mtngeo).

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  Funny enough, that question was the very reason why I originally logged onto this site. The funnel device is a splended idea. And I've since become very proficiant at dropping the back of my harness when in a well wooded area.


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