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dmon
Jun 25, 2004, 5:58 AM
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I saw some single-stemmed Rock Empire cams yesterday. They looked very similar to the Trango cams - anyone able to tell me anything about these?
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Jun 25, 2004, 10:24 AM
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They're called: Rock Empire - Comet, and are brand new. I haven't seen them here in The Netherlands yet. A Review in french magazine 'vertical' states that they're very good cams, especially for the buck. I'm very curious to getting my hands on them :lol:
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theboss
Jun 25, 2004, 10:38 AM
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a friend of mine took a 30' whipper on one of them earlier this month, don't remember the size, and the thing held. Must be good enough to trust your life to! Czech quality :wink: G
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tgreene
Jun 25, 2004, 12:45 PM
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They are exactly the same as the Trango Flexcam, and are manufactured in the same Czech factory.
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dredsovrn
Jun 25, 2004, 1:41 PM
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The new cam looks slightly different from the older Robot cam. It looks like it is still a relatively narrow head however (side to side). The only downside I found to the Rock Empire cam is that the larger sizes can be a little unstable in horizontals, particularly if placed on a route with a lot of traversing. A good product overall, and certaily safe. Just keep the narrow head in mind in certain situations to avoid walking or turning.
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dmon
Jun 28, 2004, 3:10 AM
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Cheers all - the one's I saw were the Trango/Rock Flexi-cams. Thanks for clearing that up.
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euroford
Jun 28, 2004, 2:32 PM
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why did they get rid of the thumb loop/doubled sling? :roll:
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j.bl
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Jun 28, 2004, 2:53 PM
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Dunno :? Maybe they wanted them to look like WC friends :P
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wlderdude
Jun 28, 2004, 6:19 PM
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My guess is they hope this brand extenssion, the Comet, will get some of the market share held by those who prefer the more classical style. The big boys in the industry (Wild Country and BD) both use the steel blob. So to tap into their customer base, Rock Empire probably thinks the old reliable style will help. I imagine some climbers associate the loop with cheaply made cams, even if it does function better. I haven't ever seen or touched the Comet, but I am guessing the action is super smooth, at least when they are brand new, to help them sell better.
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euroford
Jun 28, 2004, 9:37 PM
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well, in that case. please don't buy these cams. we don't need to encourage companies into thinking a backword step in technology will actually improve sales. really, there are other, MUCH better cams in that price range.
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orangekyak
Jun 28, 2004, 10:44 PM
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wow - from the looks of it, Rock Empire has just downgraded its product. Extendable slings and thumb loops are definitely more functional than that sloppy, heavy, useless blobs of metal on the ends of these, friends, and camalots. Booo rock empire.
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grayzed
Jun 28, 2004, 11:29 PM
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I bought an old school set of empires in college for 130$ 5 cams it was great because I was poor and it certainly enabled me to trad climb.. I think there a great company and make a great cams that are certified and tested for quality.. Recently I bought the # 1-3.5 camalots from GXpress for I wanna say 320$ for 4 cams a bargain in my book.. They supplement my empires excellently because I know both cams Ive placed many a camalot before I bought them everyone I climbed with had a few.. I also purchased the rock empire micro cams their an exact knockoff of metoleous TCU's i took an 8 footer on the smallest one a couple weeks ago it held perfectly.. the set of three micros runs for 70$ from GXpress.. I would reccommend them to anyone.... Also I was sceptical about how much I would use the micros but now I use them all the time and cant see life without them... Rock Empire is the shizzztttfantazzticccc I love there quality cams for a cheap price I know camalots are better but there also about 2wice the Price...! If Rock empire reads this yes ill be your spokesman...
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grayzed
Jun 28, 2004, 11:50 PM
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I was wrong GXpress has the 1-3.5 for 234$ a steallll!!!! 4 cAMALOts
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lucas_timmer
Jan 9, 2005, 1:15 PM
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The ones that look like Trango flexcams are the Rock Empire Flex cams, the Comets look more like BD Camalots.... Here's the link to the cam's page of RE, look at the flex cams. http://www.rockempire.cz/default.asp?nDepartmentID=171&nLanguageID=2 P.S. De flex cams worden wel in Nederland verkocht en ook de robots,kijk maar bij http://www.bergsportshop.com/default.php?cPath=25&osCsid=94d4d9a2801c3b79e857f1dd637334c6
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tonydevo
Jan 9, 2005, 10:01 PM
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Safe,Inexspenive and fully functional. I played with new styles and am reasonably impressed. A good buy for a second or third set or as a starter rack. :D
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