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euroford
Jul 21, 2004, 4:03 PM
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whenever the topic of aider choices comes up, its seams like 95% of us chime in in favor of the yates wall laders and 5% of us grumble about the lack of russian aiders in the market.
i'm also a user of yates wall ladders (who would love to try some ruskies), but i wonder; how mainu aid freaks out there have eschewed the yates cadilacs in favor of something else? if you went with a set of cheaper lighter aiders would you actually regret it, or just climb away all the same?
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timpanogos
Jul 21, 2004, 4:28 PM
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I've had the bug of late to try some light - more traditional aiders also .. darn handles on those ladders kind of spoil ya however.
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lambone
Jul 21, 2004, 4:38 PM
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I have been happy with good old BD aiders. They were what i first bought, and have never been able to justify buying a new pair. they seem less bulky/heavy compared to the Yates ones.
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holdplease2
Jul 21, 2004, 7:22 PM
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I have yates ladders and like the configuration of the steps.
However, the super-wide step material sticks out past the vertical material and catches on everything. This annoys the s*** out of me.
I have considered getting what I think are the yates "speed ladders" which are the same configuration of the regular ladders but with narrower steps.
This would be less comfortable if I spent a ton of time standing on my feet picking/placing gear or nailing. But I tend to select gear from a "squat" position, stand up and place it and move on, so I think that I would still be comfortable with narrower steps. I don't tend to climb nailing routes, so standing high for long periods while hammering isn't relavent for me now.
So not really a non-yates choice, more of a different yates choice...
-Kate.
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coylec
Jul 21, 2004, 8:26 PM
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I'm using a set of Yates aiders (not the ladders) and a pair of Fish one-sided aiders. I love the Fish aiders (with a few reservations, i.e. the lack of reinforcement on the substep).
At around 50 bucks a pair, it's definatley something you can try out without too much of an investment. I've got about 20 full days of use of them now and the only signs of wear is the dirt I've dragged them through.
check 'em out.
coylec
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texplorer
Jul 23, 2004, 4:27 PM
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I originally had a pair of BD offset step aiders (got the pair for 20 bucks) and did multiple walls in zion, half dome, and el cap in them. I still don't own yates aiders but borrow them all the time and they are the shizzle. The one complaint I have about them is that if you put two aiders on the same biner the reinforced tie-in point makes it hard to open the gate of the biner sometimes. Other than that I have little if any complaints. But yes I too would like to try the Russian system.
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lambone
Jul 23, 2004, 4:30 PM
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do most people climb with 4 yates ladders, or just two?
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euroford
Jul 23, 2004, 5:08 PM
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i use 4, and i would think most others do as well. though i'm sure several will suggest this is way to much and that they do nothing but get tangled up in all that mess of webbing.
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crossfit2
Jul 23, 2004, 6:20 PM
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I am just getting into aiding so obviously don't have that much to go on but have been using the Misty Mountain easy aiders. They seem pretty substantial thus far but was wondering what others think of them. The elastic seems nice for jugging but wonder how long it will hold up. Not trying to steal the thread but I thought it was somewhat related.
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lambone
Jul 23, 2004, 6:30 PM
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cool, yeah that's what I thought.
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