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far_east_climber
Aug 13, 2004, 3:39 AM
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So, how seriously do you protect yourself when outdoors in the sun? Nothing at all? Sun protection may not be much of an issue in the far N/S areas, but in most places, you have to be proactive. Also, how many of you wear sunglasses? I don't wear them as much as I could but I think they are under-rated and much less spoken of, unlike sun cream and hats.
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jamaica
Aug 13, 2004, 3:58 AM
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I only use sun screen when I'm playing in the snow or the water, but I love my sunglasses and my hat.
Jamaica
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rmiller
Aug 13, 2004, 4:19 AM
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People need to take sun exposure very seriously. I developed cancerous cells on my lip due to years of sun damage at the ripe age of 31. I had them frozen off and have not had any recurrences in 2 years, but I sure have developed a lot of other questionable spots on my body. Guess growing up as a surfer and skater in Florida, Snowborder and climber in Colorado, and the same in CA has taken its tool. The AZ sun doesn't help much now, but I have become a little bit smarter. Slap on some sunscreen, it takes 2 minutes and can save you a lot of anxiety.
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far_east_climber
Aug 13, 2004, 4:28 AM
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Yeah I think it's very important aswell. I know a person who has developed a red growth on the membrane of her eye because of sailing without sunglasses for 10 years. It's now spreading across the main section of the eye, however will hopefully be removed sucessfully before she goes entirely blind in that eye.
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salamanizer
Aug 13, 2004, 4:29 AM
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Not nearly seriously enough, but I love my shades :D
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tahoe_rock_master
Aug 13, 2004, 4:43 AM
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I always wear sunglasses. When it is shady or dark I just put in lighter lenses. I cannot stand being outside without them. As for sunscreen I wear it if I know I will be in the sun, like if I go out for an afternoon session. But if I go in the morning and it is shady then it gets sunny I usually forget the sunscreen in the car or something. I got a little burnt climbing today!!!
Matt
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eyecannon
Aug 13, 2004, 4:47 AM
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It should be taken very seriously. There is no such thing as a "safe" suntan, though getting a tan is far less bad for your skin than a sunburn. You should wear sunscreen everyday, especially on your face if you want to prevent wrinkles in the future. I wear 15 on my face every day, and 60 on all exposed parts if I'm going to be out in the sun for more than 5 minutes.
I used to not really think about it much, but my GF is a makeup artist and knows skin very well, so she has gotten me into the good habit of wearing SPF everyday.
Also, I always wear sunglasses with UV filtration whenever I'm outside and it's sunny.
Some info: http://www.aad.org/pamphlets/SunSkin.html
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climbinginchico
Aug 13, 2004, 4:47 AM
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I always have my sunglasses with me. Part of it is my sunglass fetish, I have Rudy Project, Oakley, Briko, Bolle, and Gucci shades. 8^)
I also lobsterfy (I know, I just made up a word :? ) fast, so I use the Neutrogena Active Sport SPF 45 liberally and often. Plus, I need to protect my tattoos so they don't fade.
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onelung
Aug 13, 2004, 4:49 AM
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As a whitey working on the Big Blue Pacific for most my life, I take it very seriously. I sunscreen every morning, wear long sleeve shirts, hat and sunglasses religously.
Aloha,
bill
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salamanizer
Aug 13, 2004, 5:08 AM
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Gee, would'nt it suck if someone found out sun screen also causes cancer? I can't tell what's in that stuff, can you?
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shortfatoldguy
Aug 13, 2004, 6:12 AM
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SPF45 in the morning before the climbing starts. Then I smoke at the belay. :roll:
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rrrADAM
Aug 13, 2004, 7:18 AM
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Pretty serious now...
In the last year, I've had almost 20 Basil Cell Carcinomas sawed off my shoulders and back.
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imnotclever
Aug 13, 2004, 11:56 AM
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I wear my helmet all the time, when climbing, and it's mostly to keep my balding head from burning. I could wear a hat, but hey I'm climbing.
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dfoerstel
Aug 13, 2004, 1:36 PM
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If you don't take it serious now, you will after you've had some surgery for Basal Cell Carcinoma. I can't tell you the number of times I "forgot" to put sunscreen on in my 20's & 30's. I should post some pictures from the surgeries but it's not pretty.
More info
http://www.skincancer.org/basal/index.php
Dave
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jdouble
Aug 13, 2004, 4:28 PM
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Don't forget the ears!!!! I saw some study that said in Australia the number one spot for skin cancer is the ears.
Banana Boat 50 in the black tube. I tested a lot in the surf and at high altitudes, that stuff won.
FarEastClimber, be careful in Hong Kong. Smog cuts a lot of the pollution, so I got lazy with my sunscreen while living in South China, then went elsewhere and got fried.
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korporal
Aug 13, 2004, 4:43 PM
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If it is sunny out and I am planning on spending lots of time outside I will put on some SPF 30 on all exposed skin. As far as an everyday basis I don't do anything special. I might pick up some polarized sunglasses soon. And if it is raining or heavly overcast I don't bother either.
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wannabelaybabe
Aug 13, 2004, 5:02 PM
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i pretty much slather up my bod whenever i am going outside to do anything... climbing, soccer, gardening, and sun bathing even for just 30 minutes. i have 2 2-inch scars on my back from where i had two moles removed as a precaution. hate that they are there, but they are reminders for me.
i also learned (through embarrassment) to get the entire arm and chest, not just the shoulder... i had plenty of florida peninsula sunburns from where i did not get the sunscreen all over.
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dlintz
Aug 13, 2004, 5:29 PM
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More serious these days. I'm having 6 "suspicious" growths removed from my back and shoulders in a few weeks. From age 5 to 16 I practically lived at the neighborhood swimming pool never using sunscreen and all those years of exposure are catching up with me (age 34).
As far as sunglasses go........ 8^) oh yeah.
d.
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youreup
Aug 13, 2004, 5:40 PM
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I always carry lip balm with me as well.
So what are people's recommendations for sun screens? I've noticed I sweat less when I use nongreasy types.
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snoangel
Aug 13, 2004, 6:23 PM
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I apply Banana Boat (ultra sweat/waterproof) SPF 30 on all exposed areas, especially the ears & hair part. (Peeling on your head looks like a bad case of dandruff and is not pretty, let me tell you.) I apply before I dress so that I am sure to get the areas at my clothing's edge. I also carry a stick of SPF 30 sunblock with me so that I can reapply overly exposed or sweaty areas, like my shoulders or forehead, throughout the day. On my lips, I wear an SPF 30 lip balm, which I reapply constantly.
As far as sunglasses, I wear those all day too. When it gets overcast or shady, I change lenses. Even when there is no sun, I wear clear lenses, but that is to protect my eyes (and contacts) from getting dust in them. (Sunglasses are Smith Toasters.) Finally, while belaying or hanging out, I wear a visor to keep the sun off my face.
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Aug 13, 2004, 6:28 PM
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what a timely post. I literaly just got back from the dermatologist where they zapped 11 "iffy" pre cancerous legions and removed a large asyymetrical freckle above my lip for a biopsy. I look like I just got my ass beat! At 35 im too late to undo the damage that I did at an earlier age and still loathe wearing sun screen but it really is a must. Insurance covered my visit but I looked at the bill and it was around $1600.00 for a 45 minute visit. Sunscreen is what, 5 bucks? Most of my damage seems to have occurred on Alpine routes where my lips, nose, cheeks have always gotten fried. The doc recommended some new coppertone 50 that is out that apparently doesnt sting. eyes.
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highminded
Aug 14, 2004, 12:13 AM
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All defference to those who have had basal cell carcinoma (any kind of cancer is scarey) but that's not the one that kills you. It's melanoma you've got to worry about. It metastasizes (spreads) to other organs... and then you die.
Current epidemiologic evidence suggests that serious (blistering) sun burns as a child or early teen predispose you to developing melanoma. You are particularly susceptible if you are fair skinned, blond and/or blue-eyed. The critical time to guard your skin is when you are young.
If you're an adult and you've sunburned seriously in the past, keep an eye on your moles and skin spots and go to dermatologist for a check-up at least once every two years.
Good information can be found at: http://www.cancer.gov/...rinfo/wyntk/melanoma
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phineas
Aug 14, 2004, 1:13 AM
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No, basil cell won't kill you, but it can disfigure. Not to mention it hurts like hell getting them cut out. Can't match rradam (hope I don't) but at four and counting... Take it seriously!
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far_east_climber
Aug 14, 2004, 1:45 AM
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I recommend using a high factor lib balm for the nose and upper cheek (below eyes) region. I wouldn't use anything lower than 40. I see some people use 15, what's the point? Put on suntan even during cloudy/overcast conditions because UV can penetrate. For the main face and neck region I find using a pasty surf cream is best. For the arms and legs use anything. Even if it doesn't look sunny, wear some anyway, just because you don't burn it doesn't mean your skin hasn't been exposed/affected.
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tradbum
Aug 14, 2004, 1:55 AM
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Don't be a dipshit...Sunscreen.
During years of ranching, we never wore it, but always wore long sleeve shirts and pants. But my hands look like they belong to a 70 year-old.
The classic ranchers' tan used to be a thing to laugh at, now it's skin that's not FUBAR'D. (Now I really have to be careful for the frostbite on the ears...)
I'm a friggin' Mick, so I look like a lobster even with spf45. My baby girl doesn't go outside without it.
Wear it.
Climb safe!
Smitty
As a caveat, anything you do will probably end up killing you, especially living. :wink:
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