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I'll second darkstar's cold theraphy. I've had migraines and headaches the past few years. At night I'll drive up a canyon, dunk my head in a river and drive home with the windows down. Feels great and really helps reduce pain. It's not long term or preventative but feels good at the time.

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Just thought I'd post the ways that I deal with the migraines I get.

First off, I'm 23 y/o male, and have been having migraines since I was about 6 y/o. Triggers for me were chocolate, caffeine (if I varied my intake), and dehydration. For me my migraines affect me in my forehead, temples, and where the neck attaches to the skull(on the nodules).

When I get a migraine, my reaction time is what makes the difference, if i feel one starting to come on (blurred or starry vision, dull ache, queasiness) I make sure that I get two extra strength tylenol in me, and several glasses of water. If I don't get the tylenol early on I'm in a whole world of pain (unable to see, insane pressure in my head, vommitting, etc).
Next I go relax, best scenario is in a room that doesn't have anything to spike my senses (dark, cool, no smells, no sounds), and usually that does the trick.

Couple other tricks I have found, taking a warm-hot bath before going to lie down, cold or warm compress to the neck or forehead (sometimes one works and the other doesn't, just depends), also one thing that was recommended to me but I was skeptical to try at first is massaging the area between the thumb and pointer finger for several minutes on each side, and have found that this tends to help, although not completely alleviate the migraine.

Hope that helps, and hopefully with all the great replies already that you'll be able to control these migraines so that you can go on living your life w/ more enjoyment.


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do you have the deer ticks or just the dog ticks?i've had hundreds of dog ticks and i'm not concerned...but the deer ticks carry lime...and my wifes a doctor who sees several cases a day in our area.i'm not usually a pill popper unless its LSD! :lol:


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I've suffered from them for the past 20 years or so, and often get them in clusters...

While I haven't noticed any specific triggers other than lack of eating/nutrition, I can generally catch the onset in time to stop it. I generally get a severe stabbing pain in either the left or right temple, and then the migraine begins to develop over the next 45-60 minutes. If I eat 3-4 extra strength Excedrin and drink lots of fluids as soon as I feel the pains, then I am usually okay. Otherwise, it may be anywhere from 6-48 hours of pure hell.

When I miss the signs and they go full blown, I find that sitting in a hot bath or sitting on the shower floor with HOT water rushing over me works pretty well to heat & thin the blood so that it flows better through the constricted veins.


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I get migraines at least a couple times a month, which I deal with by taking two to four Execedrin, the wonder drug. I noticed that Excedrin Migraine contains the same damn ingredients at the same levels, so I don't think it matters much which you use.
Something I'm curious about: I live in San Francisco, and when I travel to say, Yosemite early in the morning, I will get a splitting migraine and won't be able to climb that day. However, if I drive up the night before, I wake up fresh and ready to go. I attributed this to altitude, and I think that sleeping there the night before gives my body a chance to acclimate to the area. Maybe it's a similar, yet opposite effect with the Georgia folks. Anyone have any more information on this?
We still know so little about migraines, I don't think western medicine has made much progress in prevention of them.


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i just read an article that said that one of the syptoms of lyme disease are migranes...and that it often goes undiagnosed...i dont know if you have deer ticks in new mexico,but in southern newengland its an epidemic..just picked one of those little suckers off my hip yesterday..starting antibiotics today...it may be worth getting checked for lyme

You would know for sure, if you had lyme disease. You get arthritis, and blotches on your skin, in addition to the headaches...


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Anyone else get opthalmic migraines? No head pain is involved. I've been getting them in clusters for about a year now. First I lose periphreal vision, and then full vision returns. Shortly after, I begin to throw up. This happens for about half an hour, and then I immediately fall asleep. I've found that if I go to sleep right when my vision returns, I can avoid the throwing up. I went to a neurologist who said I'd probably grow out of them. Hopefully it's true.


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I thought my headaches were migraines until I started getting migraines. I get them accompanied with vomitting, the altitude sickness version, MSG triggered ones and the worst of all dizziness, nausea, shakes, massive pain behind my left eye and the need for dark quiet and as little movement as possible. I now know how to manage the altitude sickness version, I avoid MSG in large doses (I no longer eat Chinese dumplings - EVER!), the worst of all one usually only hits me once every year or so and I am out of commission for at least a day from it.


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My wife gets them too. Triggered by bananas, nuts, oranges, lemons, and a lot more. Also she needs to drink tonic water because it has some mineral in it to help with toe cramps and migrains.


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What is "mersyndol"?

mersyndol is magic I tell you, I take it when I get a bad migrane. I also took it when I almost dislocated my elbow 2 years ago.

this is a basic run down on it

MERSYNDOL is available in packs of 20, each tablet contains codeine 9.75mg, paracetamol 450mg, doxylamine succinate 5mg.

In the USA, Tylenol 3 (Tylenol with Codeine) is very similar.


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I have suffered from migraines since I was 12, I am now 40.

Have it well figured out by now.

My biggest trigger is Sodium Nitrate. Beef Jerkey, most cold cuts.
MSG is a killer. So is sunlight.

This has not stopped my from doing many big walls even with a migraine.
I usually would get them at the end of the day, and just start slamming pain killers.

I can still lead hard trad with 2 #3's in bloodstream.

Imitrex is a wonder drug also.

If you want some lucid dreams try beer and vic.

Love

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i just read an article that said that one of the syptoms of lyme disease are migranes...and that it often goes undiagnosed...i dont know if you have deer ticks in new mexico,but in southern newengland its an epidemic..just picked one of those little suckers off my hip yesterday..starting antibiotics today...it may be worth getting checked for lyme

You would know for sure, if you had lyme disease. You get arthritis, and blotches on your skin, in addition to the headaches...

I have lyme (six months and am seeing the number one doctor in the US for it) and migranes (four years) so I can comment with a bit of information on both.

It seems to be customary to declare your sex in this thread so I will too. I am male.

As for the migranes. I get about four to six a year. One to two of those start with a visual part (concentric blobs that radiate and move around) that lasts from half and hour to an hour. Then the pain comes. Throbbing pain in one area of my head that last for about two hours if treated and up to eight if untreated. This pain if amplified if I suddenly move my head. There is residual pain that last for twelve hours and I have minor "after shocks" the beggining of the next day. And one biyeatrly this is acompanied by vomiting bihourly.

Triggers:
Stress
Caffine (two sodas, coffe, or tea)
Bright patterned lights
Loud repetitive sound

Treatment:
Take two of these big red perscription pills (can't remember name) and sleep for an hour. Take one more. Sleep for an hour. Repeate as necessary up to five times. (never done more than three times) For imeadiate relife apply presure to area of pain. And strangley enough load up on caffine.

And now to Lyme (I'll try to keep it to the abridged version and sorry if this becomes a hijacking).

Week One (Early-Mid March): Had hip pain for a few days. Couldn't walk for a few more. Saw primary care. Posible hip flexor (didn't really know). Got perscription for vicadin and didn't fill it.

Week two: Pain increased so much that crawling became a challange. Filled perscription for vicadin and took three to four a day. Barley enough relief to crawl from bed to bathroom and back to bed (about 15 feet round trip) Knee started to swell

Week Three: Saw primary care again. Got refered to an orthorpedist. Bone doc thought bacterial infection in the joint. (if not treated hip replacement, if treated surgery to clean out joint capsule) It was a a small hospital so I was sent to Children's (im 16) in Boston for further examination and treatment.

Five day hospital stay: Hip tap that shows negitive for bacterial infection, more x-rays, blood tests for arthritis and lyme, bone scan, MRI, and screamin kids that are throwing up and crappin all over the place. Everything was negitive. Had every bone doc and "all-round" doctor in the hospital on my case. Saw about fifteen doctors, residents, and med students during my stay. All asking the same questions. Finally broke down mentally and told docors that I was leaving and that I could use crutches to get around the house. (barely) Discharged late at about eleven at night.

Week Four: A few days of hobling around the house felling leaps and bounds better thanks to neproxin (extra extra extra strength advil) and perdnisone (steroid) for the inflamation. Side effects of prednisone (eat everything in sight. What I imagine pot munchies are like) suck. Call from the hospital saying that the lyme test came back positive. Put on Doxyxycl (antibiotic) for four weeks.

Week five: Return to (boarding) school on crutches. I was on a three week spring break when this started. Get the best tricep workout of my life from the crutches. By the start of the next week I am off the crutches and limping form class to class.

Week Seven: Got a lengthened perscription for my antibiotic. Adds two weeks to treatment

Week Eight: Been strength training for the past few weeks to try and regain strengthin in my left leg and finally my legs look almost the same size.

Mid June: Been on antibiotics since March. See the number one lyme specialist and he stops the Doxycycl and puts me on Biaxin (antibiotic) and Hydroxycloroquine (anit-malaria some how works against lyme) along with a bunch of suplements for the symptoms.

Mid July: Ceftin (antibiotic) is added to the mix.

Mid September: Should be done with antibiotics.

The point of this story is that lyme is a royal pain in the tush. And to add some validity to what I am about to say.

Lyme has more symptoms than you could imagine. Unfortunatly these symptoms are the same as other alements. Joint pain is just one of them. The list includes fever, memory loss, nouning of things, migranes, lack of blood to the brain, rash, and instenal problems. This is why it is mis and underdiagnosed. Doctors do not know enough about it and belive that these symptoms belong to other problems.

My mother was diagnosed with lym this June agter having it for an estimated four years. She was bit, had a lump at the site. and then had joint pain, memory loss, and other symptoms. All the doctors she saw said that she was just a menapausal (sp?) and that it would go away. She got tested for it the same time I saw the specialist and was positive with flying colors.

What I am trying to say is that just having one of the symptoms probably is not enough to have lyme but you may. Migranes are just one of those symtoms and it you are unsucsesfully being treated for them and other alements you probably should get tested for lyme. Most places won't give you the reliable test so you should ask for it. The lab is IgenX somewhere in Cali. Google it if you are interested.

Sorry for the hijacking but I find it important to raise awareness about lyme(Plus I spent about and hour writing this). Let's consider this tangent done and if you have any, questions, or comments PM me.

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