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krillen
Nov 18, 2004, 5:30 PM
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Photo bombing happens. There is no solution. Don't take the ratings here seriously until people can stop acting like children.
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tim
Nov 18, 2004, 5:38 PM
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In reply to: There is no solution.
Hear, hear! That's the way to look at it! ;-)
Truth be told, massive deviations from the norm are massively discounted -- if there is a huge pile of '10' and '9' and '8' votes, and then a smattering of '1' votes and nothing in between, the '1' votes don't count much. I took a poll of people's thoughts regarding 'truth' or 'completeness' in those little vote graphs -- everyone wanted 'completeness' so they could still get their panties in a wad :-)
Rest assured, though, that as with everything else on the site, dirty tricks are employed to make sure that only dedicated bombers, employing proper teamwork, and enjoying good luck, can Make a Difference.
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johnson6102002
Nov 18, 2004, 6:47 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: There is no solution. Hear, hear! That's the way to look at it! ;-) Truth be told, massive deviations from the norm are massively discounted -- if there is a huge pile of '10' and '9' and '8' votes, and then a smattering of '1' votes and nothing in between, the '1' votes don't count much. I took a poll of people's thoughts regarding 'truth' or 'completeness' in those little vote graphs -- everyone wanted 'completeness' so they could still get their panties in a wad :-) Rest assured, though, that as with everything else on the site, dirty tricks are employed to make sure that only dedicated bombers, employing proper teamwork, and enjoying good luck, can Make a Difference.
thats good to hear i never knew this thanks tim
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jpdreamer
Nov 18, 2004, 6:52 PM
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Could be because it doesn't show climbing so they looked at it and rated poorly because it's not a climbing pic per se...Although that sunset pic of the maine ice shows no climbing either and it's stayed high. Ah well, it's a thought. Nice pic.
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caughtinside
Nov 18, 2004, 6:56 PM
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I didn't rate that photo, but I will admit to bombing on occasion.
If there's a photo on the front page that I don't think is all that great, sure, I'll give it a 1, to try and get it off the FP. But, since Tim says low votes are discounted, maybe I'll try a 3 instead. heh heh.
Also, if there's stuff that's been on the front page forever, I'll give it a 1 when I'm tired of looking at it.
And lastly, I'm not really a fan of the slackline pics. Some of them are good, but in my opinion are good solely because of the scenery. And there sure are a lot of slackline pics.
I've often wondered why people get worked up about the photo scores. Usually, good photos stay on the FP and average photos don't. If you don't want people to rate your photo, that's an option too. I will admit that I don't take any photos, and have only posted one to the site, so I'm not really invested in it, so feel free to take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Long story short: I don't vote photos low to be a jerk. I vote them low if I don't want to see them on the FP. That's it.
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krillen
Nov 18, 2004, 9:01 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: There is no solution. Hear, hear! That's the way to look at it! ;-) Truth be told, massive deviations from the norm are massively discounted -- if there is a huge pile of '10' and '9' and '8' votes, and then a smattering of '1' votes and nothing in between, the '1' votes don't count much. I took a poll of people's thoughts regarding 'truth' or 'completeness' in those little vote graphs -- everyone wanted 'completeness' so they could still get their panties in a wad :-) Rest assured, though, that as with everything else on the site, dirty tricks are employed to make sure that only dedicated bombers, employing proper teamwork, and enjoying good luck, can Make a Difference.
Sorry Tim, this wasn't meant as a shot at you or the people that work really hard on this site (and have overhauled the photo system endlessly). my point was that no matter what we do to make the voting fair and "correct", it's never going to be until there is a fundemantal change in people's attitudes. I don't personally see this happening. The internet is people's place for annonymous misbehaviour, because there are no concequences.
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popol
Nov 18, 2004, 10:07 PM
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In reply to: If there's a photo on the front page that I don't think is all that great, sure, I'll give it a 1, to try and get it off the FP. But, since Tim says low votes are discounted, maybe I'll try a 3 instead. heh heh.
Kind of selfisch, don't you think? Give it honest votes, worthy to the picture, instead of bombing. And if you don't like the picture on the front page, refresh :roll:
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caughtinside
Nov 18, 2004, 10:12 PM
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Um, I don't think it's selfish.
I'm not a pro photographer. I rate the photos based on how well I like them. If I don't like them, they get a low vote.
I don't purposefully bomb slackline photos. But, I don't like slacklining photos as much as I like climbing photos. I'm more likely to give slackline photos a lower score.
Why do people always complain about photo bombing? If people like your photos, they will get a high score. If people don't like them, or don't want to see slackline photos on the FP, they will get a low score.
Hasn't it been suggested that you can see what people vote on photos? I'm cool with that. I stand behind my votes. They're not personal.
I give high scores to photos I like. Sheesh.
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krillen
Nov 22, 2004, 4:33 PM
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In reply to: If there's a photo on the front page that I don't think is all that great, sure, I'll give it a 1, to try and get it off the FP. But, since Tim says low votes are discounted, maybe I'll try a 3 instead. heh heh. Also, if there's stuff that's been on the front page forever, I'll give it a 1 when I'm tired of looking at it.
That's personal. There's no objective critique involved in that.
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the_pirate
Nov 22, 2004, 6:11 PM
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In reply to: I posted this pic a while back and it got bombed right away. At least by five people. What gives?
Several reasons:
1) Some people think that their opinion is more valuable than those of everyone else and bomb photos they don't like seeing on the FP.
2) Some people feel that slacklining is not part of climbing and should not be featured on a climbing site. (Quite often these people also fall into category #1).
3) People that post slacklining pictures on this site seem to be (IMHO) overly sensitive to the people in category #2 and by posting these sensitivities, give the people in category #1 a big fat chubby as they bomb your pics.
FWIW, I lthink you have some great pictures. Too many of the same thing on the FP gets monotonous though; too many slacklining pics, too many landscapes, too many sunsets, etc. But I stopped voting on pictures months ago.
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holdplease2
Nov 22, 2004, 6:21 PM
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...or, perhaps, a little tiny chubby.
-Kate.
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caughtinside
Nov 22, 2004, 6:26 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: If there's a photo on the front page that I don't think is all that great, sure, I'll give it a 1, to try and get it off the FP. But, since Tim says low votes are discounted, maybe I'll try a 3 instead. heh heh. Also, if there's stuff that's been on the front page forever, I'll give it a 1 when I'm tired of looking at it. That's personal. There's no objective critique involved in that.
Uhh, so? I wasn't aware I had to vote based on your criteria.
Hell. Maybe I'll stop voting on photos. I don't really give a hoot anyway, and people seem to get upset.
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krillen
Nov 23, 2004, 4:04 PM
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In reply to: Hasn't it been suggested that you can see what people vote on photos? I'm cool with that. I stand behind my votes. They're not personal.
Sounds like YOUR criteria, not mine.
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caughtinside
Nov 23, 2004, 5:25 PM
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Sounds like you've got a reading comprehension issue there. By 'they're not personal' I was addressing the issue that's been discussed here before, that some people vote a 1 because they don't like the person who posted the photo. I have not done that.
It's simple:
Some slackline pictures are good.
I like climbing pictures more than slackline pictures.
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areyoumydude
Nov 23, 2004, 9:30 PM
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In reply to: ...or, perhaps, a little tiny chubby. -Kate.
now that makes sense. :lol:
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