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cosmokramer
Nov 20, 2004, 7:21 PM
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I'm looking to hear from climbers who have been diagnosed with labrum tears. What were your symptoms? Did you have surgery? How exactly did you come to be injured? I've read past threads about this topic and found some decent information, but I would like to hear from you in this thread so I can ask you questions directly. Thanks in advance, Mike
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pt
Nov 20, 2004, 7:58 PM
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I dislocated my shoulder in May. MRI showed complete tear of the inferior and anterior labrum. I have not had surgery and I've been able to climb without any feeling of instability, but I do have some pain and weakness if my arm is fully extended when reaching for a hold. I'm trying to be conservative with my climbing and I'm staying consistant with a comprehensive strengthening program. So far so good, I think I'll be able to avoid surgery.
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angry
Nov 20, 2004, 8:16 PM
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I tore my labia once, does that count?
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powen
Nov 20, 2004, 8:26 PM
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Symptoms: Shoulder coming out of socket at awkward moments... playing soccer, lifting car hood over head, playing racquetball, sleeping... It's really pleasant to wake to this sensation... I had arthroscopic surgery, two tiny holes in shoulder in front and back. Recovery took me about 6-8 months with lots of rehab. My shoulder is not the same... It is much more stable and healthy than before (post injury I mean), but I still feel pressure when I try to throw things overhanded... like beer cups at Ron Artest... I don't know if I could get that kind of velocity. I'm kinda jealous. I definitely can't throw a baseball or a football with any kind of appreciable velocity, but climbing has been 99% fine. Also, swinging ice axes hasn't been a problem either, nor arresting or any other alpine activity. I only feel strange climbing when both arms are spread out and pushing back behind me with my thumbs up (rarely happens unless I'm in a dihedral). I don't experiment too much with what feels uncomfortable... I'd rather not find out if it would come back out. I got injured playing soccer. Two of my brother's friends decided that it was a good time to throw me to the ground while I was running at full speed. One of them also grabbed an arm of mine, so when I went to put my arms in front of me, they were a little late getting there. My elbow landed straight on the ball below me, and then I remembered feeling my shoulder feeling strange. Someone looked at me and said, "Uh, your shoulder doesn't look right". [spray]I rolled my shoulder and it popped right back in... No reduction needed. I felt like Mel Gibson. Then I went back on the field and scored a goal with my first touch. Scored three goals that game, and had two assists. [/spray] Some would say that's pretty f'ing studly. I like to call that "tres stupid". I'm older, slower and just as stupid now. PM me if you want to know more about surgery, rehab, or whatever.
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powen
Nov 20, 2004, 8:26 PM
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Sure does! Post a pic...
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powen
Nov 20, 2004, 8:28 PM
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In reply to: I tore my labia once, does that count? Absolutely! Post a pic... You're a "girl" with no surgical enhancements, right?
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cire
Nov 20, 2004, 8:32 PM
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I have a labrum tear. Have had it for about 1 year. Working in the medical field I can tell you that Labrum tears are very hard to diagnose and are not always what they seem on film. The only true way is an arthroscopic look at it. Also depends on weather it is a complete tear or just a small piece like a flap torn and hanging down. Surgery does not always work out and it is considered a "second season" injury meaning ball players are usually out two seasons for full recovery. You may lose some range of motion with surgery and will probably be out for a good year or so. PT diff. helps strengthin the muscles around the shoulder to help compinsate the pressure applied to the labrum. I do PT everyday and am climbing pretty strong. I can't really say it affects my climbing anymore if anything it has made me a better climber. I only have problems when puting my arm in certain positions. Avoid those positions and climb around them using other techniques. My opinion Surgery a very last resort.
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bb
Nov 20, 2004, 10:11 PM
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I dislocated my shoulder one month ago climbing. Ive been out of the exterior rotation sling for a week and a half. No MRI was done so I don't know if I tore my labrum. I am already lifting weights and swimming for rehab. I tried to lightly throw an object and was met with some shocking pain. My strategy is to make my arm as strong as possible through exercise. Has anyone done acupuncture?
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hemp22
Nov 20, 2004, 11:35 PM
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My brother, who I sometimes climb with, just got surgery for a labrum tear last week. In his case, he actually sort of lucked out - the tear turned out to be not as bad as they had thought from the MRIs, He had gotten a second opinion and the doctors had agreed that it was probably a bad tear So, here's what he was expecting: getting the full surgery where they were going to drill holes in the shoulder bone, insert anchors into the bone, and then sort of tie the labrum back to the bone. Followed by ~6 weeks of keeping the arm in a sling and being on pain killers, and then ~6 months of additional recovery before being back to normal. What he actually got after they opened him up and found the tear to only be minor: the surgery was "some pruning and some stimulus", and the labrum should grow back to the bone on its own. And after only 1 week he's out of the sling and off the prescription painkillers. He'll still be in physical therapy twice a week for a month. As a side note: the cause of his injury was overuse from Swimming almost every day and rowing crew...not from climbing, since he doesn't actually climb more than once every couple months.
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jenfu
Nov 20, 2004, 11:59 PM
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Had a tear in my labrum in my left shoulder a few years back. Did it on a climb called "Shut up and Climb" in Red Rocks where I had to pull down on a big hold and then almost mantle it to reach the next hold with my right hand. I was just short of the next hold and gave it a quick extra push on the left. I should mention that it was day 6 of climbing on this trip. Shoulders depend on the rotator cuff and shoulder girdle muscles to stable it and when fatigue sets in, this doesn't work so well...resulting in stress coming onto the ligaments and capsule of the joint => injury. Symptoms for me was instability and occasional pain, especially with gastons and mantles. I had arthroscopic surgery and 3 months of rehab before getting back onto the rock. Now it is 100% (knock on wood). Keep in mind that there are many types of labral tears...some resulting from overuse, others resulting from dislocations. The prognosis is different for these different types of tears so these cases reported here may not accurately represent yours. Good luck with your injury. JenFu
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cosmokramer
Nov 22, 2004, 12:15 AM
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Thank you for responding!
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gitarooman
Nov 25, 2004, 5:42 AM
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Im a beginner climber (9 months) and I had one of these injuries about 3 months ago. A few years before I began climbing ( I mostly do bouldering) I had dislocated both shoulders, which the doctor said was probably one of the reasons I got injured. Anyway, I noticed some pain when climbing one day so I stopped and didnt think much of it. The next day, the pain was intense. It actually felt like it was more in my elbows at first and then would radiate up thru my shoulder and down to my fingers. It got to the point where I couldnt move my arm and was taking tylenol 3's while I waited to get an appointment. So the doc said it was a labral tear, and told me to rest it for at least a month and then some physical therapy. All in all I was out for about 1 1/2 months, without having to get surgery. Doing all those exercises that "seem" pointless really helped out a lot in my opinion. (BTW, I cant seem to throw a baseball nearly as hard as I used to without causing discomfort now after the injury, but that really doesnt matter as long as I can climb pain free now does it? ) Well thats my contribution, hope you heal up as fast as I did.
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roadtrippin
Dec 7, 2004, 8:17 AM
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yep. Shoulder cam out in highschool in a backyard boxing match(stupid). Came out consitantly during sports and sleep, about once a month climbing. I had surgery and all seems to be much better. Lost a little mobility but it's not really noticable when climbing.
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