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mtman
Dec 3, 2004, 10:27 PM
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i have never done this but i am would like to do it to get some better pictures ( no more ass shots!!!)
the question is what is the best way to do this?
what was i was thinking was using a ATC and an auto block, which is a prussic loop around the rope and attached to you leg loop with a girth hitch and a locking biner before the rope goes through the belay device. this is a common set up for rappelling with heavy loads in case you get of balance or out of control.
if you don't understand my explanation go here for an animation: http://www.rockclimbing.com/articles/index.php?id=53
would this setup be safe to hang from (body weight only) to take pictures (for extended periods of time) or should i use a better set up?
Mtman
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trenchdigger
Dec 3, 2004, 10:34 PM
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Yes, this is a safe method.
I picked up a Petzl Shunt a while back to simplify shooting on rappel, and the device works great. Use it as a second prussik above your belay device (along with the autoblock below it). To switch to "Ascending" mode, simply add a prussik to your line to step up on and use the Shunt as an ascender.
~Adam~
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outdoormikeg
Dec 3, 2004, 10:35 PM
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I can't imagine why you couldn't use this setup for hanging to take pics.
If you can fix a line and rap down a single strand you could use ascenders to move up and down the rope as the person climbs.
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onbelay510
Dec 3, 2004, 10:44 PM
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I just lock off as described in Freedom of the Hills: wrap the rope around your waist and then twice around your leg. I've done this many times and never had a problem. The prusik is a nice way to make it safer though.
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angelaa
Dec 3, 2004, 10:47 PM
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actually . . . perfect way to do it
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cheap too - because you should already have all the equipment needed!
go for it and post the photos
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epic_ed
Dec 3, 2004, 11:18 PM
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epic_ed moved this thread from General to Climbing Photography.
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caughtinside
Dec 3, 2004, 11:55 PM
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Your ethics suck. I only look at photos that were taken hanging off hooks, from the ground up. Rap photoing is for weenies.
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mtman
Dec 4, 2004, 12:46 AM
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thanks for the help
mtman
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shatter
Dec 4, 2004, 1:56 AM
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There is the "bipod" method described here at http://www.photomediagroup.com/...er2001/adventure.htm
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Wiltsie had two methods of taking pictures of the expedition: jumping — the preferred method — or the dreaded "bipod."
"It’s very complicated to set up, and it took me a long time. It’s suspended via ropes, fixed to a rock anchor 100 feet above. It’s got telescoping legs. I get onto the end of the bipod on another rope that’s hanging off the end and, using rope climbing and descending tools, move up and down to get unusual perspectives.
"It was extremely frightening, not because it’s way, way — at least 1,500 feet — straight down. And you’re out front of the wall, so if that bipod collapses it’s the same as falling 10 or 15 feet to the ground as you smash into the wall. But I kept spinning around on the rope, and I had very little control of the direction I was pointed. Plus it was raining, kind of miserable at the time. But it was worth it — the shot was definitely worth it." His photograph of the climbers bivouacked in tents hanging off the side of the cliff ran in National Geographic’s January 1999 issue.
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Anybody have pics of this bipod device itself?
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coldclimb
Dec 4, 2004, 3:57 AM
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In reply to: I can't imagine why you couldn't use this setup for hanging to take pics. If you can fix a line and rap down a single strand you could use ascenders to move up and down the rope as the person climbs.
This is probably the best way overall that I have ever found. The bipod will get better pictures in a lot of cases, but it's a bit inconvenient. Invest in a pair of ascenders and you can keep up with the climber as they move, always staying at the best angle. You just have to work fast to keep ahead and take pictures too. ;)
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sandbag
Dec 4, 2004, 4:53 AM
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yep
fixed static line, ascenders, and keep all of the rope up flaked too other wise you see it dangling away. and communicate with the talent ahead of time to know what the shoot will be like.
and use an autoblock for a back up just in case, and remember, the pics that hit the mags will be showing 2-3 angles, and 3 points of contact of the climber to the rock. good luck
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phile
Dec 4, 2004, 5:19 AM
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In reply to: Your ethics suck. I only look at photos that were taken hanging off hooks, from the ground up. Rap photoing is for weenies.
FUNNY!
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rrrADAM
Dec 4, 2004, 6:24 AM
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I've taken many a pic on-rap... I just wrap the rope around my leg 4 or five times, and clip the tail end to a draw on the same side as the leg I have wrapped. Same thing I do if I need both hands to clean a stuck piece on-rap. Quick, easy, and safe.
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