Hell yea, im 16 and i drink, i went over to my friends house every weekend and got drunk as hell, his dad owns check into cash business, hes a multi millionare, we drunk tons of beer and liquor from them and walked 2 miles bare footed just to swim in his twin lakes for 5 min :) , he has like 2 6ft tall, 5 feet wide beer coolers :twisted: , and we had a hang over from drinking to much jack and blayed off his 5 story treehouse.

The only legitimate reason not to drink is if you were in a heavy metal band in the late 80s to early 90's and got so strung out on drugs and booze that after your tenth trip to the emergency room you decided to quit. All other reasons, especially religious, are horsesh**t. Alcohol can be enjoyed responsibly.

Then how come their were over 20000 people killed by drunk drivers last year?

How come alcoholism is such a common problem?

Some people simply CANNOT drink responsibly, it's called addiction.

I know a lady who was beat and molested by her alcoholic father, he only did it when he was wasted. She won't touch alcohol. Is that a bad reason?

Hell yea, im 16 and i drink, i went over to my friends house every weekend and got drunk as hell, his dad owns check into cash business, hes a multi millionare, we drunk tons of beer and liquor from them and walked 2 miles bare footed just to swim in his twin lakes for 5 min :) , he has like 2 6ft tall, 5 feet wide beer coolers :twisted: , and we had a hang over from drinking to much jack and blayed off his 5 story treehouse.

Not drinking is nothing to be proud of

Sure is fun though

Just because someone chooses not to drink for religious reasons doesn't mean they are coming for you keg/flask/bottle next. Why the paranoia? Why the discrimination and vilifying of those who live their lives by principles different that yours?

Say what? Ever heard of a little thing called prohibition? Or perhaps more recently the religious right trying to keep gay people from marrying? People in this country try to enforce their own religious beliefs on others all the time.

2004?

http://tinyurl.com/4wob7

http://www.decaturdaily.com/...s/040523/sales.shtml

http://www.courier-journal.com/...etdry0526-11618.html

Don't know what country you live in dude, but in my country? Reports of the Death of Prohibitiion were GREATLY exaggerated!


I agree with that. The whole red/blue debate is moronic and those who perpetrate it are morons as well.

Cheers!
DMT

The majority of Kentucky is registered Democrat, and our state government is typically Democrat ruled. That didn't stop us from voting to ban gay marriage and civil unions, and it hasn't stopped people from denying me the ability to enjoy a sip of Jack Daniel's or fine Kentucky Bourbon whiskey on a Sunday afternoon.

Buy it on Saturday and quit whining? No, I should be able to buy it whatever day I choose. I am a responsible drinker and adult, I should not be punished for the transgressions or moral frailties of others.

Prohibition? This year? Which Senator is sponsoring the legislation? C'mon!! That was in the 1920's -- who's coming after you and you Guiness this weekend? Absolutely no one.

Great. Did you vote the last time your county had a measure on the ballot to lift the Sunday blue laws? If there hasn't been a measure on the ballot recently, what have you done to get one on it that reflects your values? If your values truely reflect the majority opinion of the residence in your county then it should be a slam dunk. If not, then...you're going to be governed by someone else's value system until you move somewhere that they have no restrictions of alcohol sales and consumption.

Ed

Ed,

First you are telling us:


Then when an example is shown to the contrary you simply change gears (apparently to avoid having to say you were wrong) and state that it's OK to regulate morality as long as it's only on the 'local' and not the Federal level? Nicely done - you should be a polititican :wink:

Nah, Holmes, your example was prohibition -- which was a federally mandated law. I'm very much against the feds making laws which could be better decided for me at a more local level. This applies to nearly everything -- issues of morality (can you imagine the feds trying to comeup with a laws for strip bars? :roll: -- yeah, good luck there), taxation, building codes, etc. You, in Colorado, aren't affected by the local blue laws in Kentucky that Dingus linked any more than I am in AZ. Just as it should be. Now our poor brother, Powen, on the other hand...move to Cincinnati.

Ed

Please, somebody give me a little support here.

I don't drink, and I'm not ripping on anybody that does, but I'm just curious as to what extent climbing and drinking go together? From the talk that gets spread around this site, and from the dominant climbing community, it seems that climbers can rarely be found in their campsites without a brew in hand.

Unfortunately, whenever I think about traveling somewhere and climbing with a random partner I'm not acquainted with, I take into account the environment that I might be exposed to, and I generally don't care to associate myself with people who are drinking. It just doesn't appeal to me, and I don't enjoy it, so I am hesitant to partner up with someone I do not know.

So what gives? Is drinking just that enjoyable when combined with climbing? What's the reasoning? How many of you don't drink? I'd like to hear from both sides of this one. Flame as desired.