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climberstephen
Dec 29, 2004, 8:00 PM
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I submit that only gubmie (new) climbers read these forums. Whether it's looking for information they don't yet know, looking for other climbers, or just to see what it's all about, I don't think many seasoned climbers ever come here and actually spend time reading these threads, which, once you spend 6 months on this thing, all begin to recycle.
The gumbies (to this site at least) don't bother searching for existing threads filled with 100's of replies to the questions they have. Instead they just post them again... and again... and again. Then there are the few knowledgable climbers who post responses to these repeated queries, but the arguing that pursues about technique, safety, and simply differences of opinions only amaze and confuse the minds of the unknowing.
So let's here it... prove me wrong! Post this info and we'll see the trend:
1) How long have you actively climbed?
2) How long have you been a user of RC.Com?
3) How long has it been since you were an active poster on RC.Com?
Me:
1) 5 years
2) 3 years
3) 2 years
So, of my 5 year of climbing life, I only used RC.Com for only the 3rd year of it, which by then I was one of those self-proclaimed knowledgable climbers confusing the gumbies...
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ricardol
Dec 29, 2004, 8:08 PM
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climber for 2 years
at rc.com for 2 years
active - in the last week
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ikefromla
Dec 29, 2004, 8:16 PM
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1) actively climbed for 7 years
2) been on RC.com for just over 2 years
3) i post here much less frequently in the past year, but read frequently.
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eyecannon
Dec 29, 2004, 8:19 PM
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Actually, you were right... I am a gumby :cool:
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angry
Dec 29, 2004, 8:22 PM
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I've climbed longer than the sum total of all your responses. I've been active for only the last year on this site.
In that year, I've at least paid attention to the proper terms. A gumbie is someone (beginner or not) who thinks he knows everything and is wrong. He comes up with rants and ideas pulled from his ass. He believes he is always right. Based on this definition, climberstephen is a true gumbie.
A new climber is a n00b, he/she can be an idiot, or just inexperienced.
Not all gumbs are n00bs and not all n00bs are gumbs. For further clarification, look into the history of the now martyred Dr. Kodos.
As far as the originality of this post, I ask climberstephen to "do a search n00b" and furthermore, proclaim "STFU gumb!"
That is all
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killclimbz
Dec 29, 2004, 8:23 PM
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I've never climbed a day in my life...
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atg200
Dec 29, 2004, 8:24 PM
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1. climbing for 11 years, all kinds of climbing all over the world
2. first logged in to this site maybe 4 years ago
3. been active on this site the whole time
and an unasked for #4 - i live somewhere with lots of good climbing
i think you are wrong. the gumbie to climber ratio is unfortunately very high, but there are plenty of folks here who climb awfully well.
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uasunflower
Dec 29, 2004, 8:25 PM
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i think the usage of rc.com depends more on the user's job than his qualifications as a climber. If you sit all day in a cubicle, there is nothing like a little flame, spray or gumbiness in a thread here. Even with the overall poor quality there is always smth interesting to be dug out of the pile and amuze yourself with during the 8 to 5. On the other hand you probably won't qualify as a hardcore climber if you have a full time job - so maybe finally you do have a point :wink:
(sorry - i'm probably not seasoned enough to post to this thread anyway)
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lockeyaaron
Dec 29, 2004, 8:32 PM
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Man Stephen, for someone who was so anal about posting I would have thought that you would be the type of person who used spellcheck. Guess not though.
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brutusofwyde
Dec 29, 2004, 8:38 PM
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In reply to: 1) How long have you actively climbed? 2) How long have you been a user of RC.Com? 3) How long has it been since you were an active poster on RC.Com?
I've actively climbed since very early in the 1970's -- approximately 35 years, if one does not consider top-roping as active climbing.
I've been a member of R.com for about 2 years.
Started posting the first day.
In reply to: So, of my 5 year of climbing life, I only used RC.Com for only the 3rd year of it, which by then I was one of those self-proclaimed knowledgable climbers confusing the gumbies...
I'm not clear on what this has to do with your hypothesis. :?:
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sarcat
Dec 29, 2004, 8:47 PM
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In reply to: If you sit all day in a cubicle...
That would be me. And all I could muster in the last 11 months is 1364 posts. How pathetic.
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justthemaid
Dec 29, 2004, 8:51 PM
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I agree on some points. I've climbed- 4 yrs
Used RC.com 1 year
Actively posted- 6 months
It was facinating at first, but I rapidly became tired of self-aggrandizing know-it-alls bullying the nOObs and bickering about the same topics over and over again. I still check in and read from time to time to see if anyone has anything interesting to say. I mostly check the news forums and imformation on my local crags. I rarely post any longer.
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climbsomething
Dec 29, 2004, 8:52 PM
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Uh... what?
[Towelly]I have no idea what's going ooon[/Towelly]
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curt
Dec 29, 2004, 8:53 PM
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In reply to: 1) How long have you actively climbed? 2) How long have you been a user of RC.Com? 3) How long has it been since you were an active poster on RC.Com?
1) 25 years.
2) 3 years.
3) Earlier today.
In reply to: ...So let's here it... prove me wrong!....
Looks like we have done just that. Besides, most of the world's weighty political problems are solved in the community forum here.
Curt
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lazyjammin
Dec 29, 2004, 8:56 PM
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Ive climbed for 3 years, used rc.com for six months, and if Im posting I have been active since I started using the website.
Anyways who cared if the same stuff is regugitated, if it wasnt there wouldnt be as much to talk about or to laugh about. If you dont like the topics post up some obscure and disputed facts to argue over, or trip reports.
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olderic
Dec 29, 2004, 9:06 PM
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In reply to: I submit that only gubmie (new) climbers read these forums.
I don't think it's that black and white. The (vast) majority of the users of rc.com probably fit into the noob or gumbie category - but not all. The (even vaster) majority (the DMT's of the world) think they have something profound to say most of the time. The signal to noise (or whatever cliche you like) ratio is pretty bad as a result. But there is still some usefulness here. The particular format and style seem to be especially attractive to the noob/gumbs - it helps the whole vibe of getting caught up in the Xtremeness of it all. That is versus the higher quality of our (almost) dearly departed wreck.climbing (and the shortlived and quite useful rec.climbing.useful). But the whole pattern here is not unique to climbing - it's just a characteristic of the www and it's ability to dumb down everything. And like Julia says - it's an amusing passtime.
Oh - and have been climbing for 30+ years - North America, Europe. Been monitering and occasionally posting to these forums for a few years
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wideguy
Dec 29, 2004, 9:21 PM
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I'm in the amusing pastime category
Climbing almost 3 years
Using RC.com since the beginning. It's how I found almost 100% of my climbing partners.
Actively post everyday, although I'll admit, rarely outside community. That is where the amusement part comes in.
As for "valuable" info, I still think an open minded and discerning journeyman can still gleen the occasional nugget of worth. And when used properly the access it can give you to people to learn from is almost unparalleled.
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braaaaaaaadley
Dec 29, 2004, 9:23 PM
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1) active climber for 3+ years (been climbing on and off 2 years before this)
2)At RC.com for about 2+ years?
3)Recently, I have been active.
I think posts keep repeating themselves because at least for me the search function does not work... I mean not at all. Since the summer I have recieved an error message when trying to search for whateverI may be searching for.
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wingnut
Dec 29, 2004, 9:39 PM
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1.) climbing for 3 1/2 years.
2.) member for like, a month.
3.) been fairly active the whole time.
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I refuse to accpet your reality, and substitute my own.
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holdplease2
Dec 29, 2004, 9:44 PM
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Climbed for how long: 5 years
On rc.com: 2 years
Active posts: Earlier today
# of times I have seen stephenclimber look like an a-hole today: Twice.
-Kate.
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ebelay
Dec 29, 2004, 9:48 PM
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In reply to: I submit that only gubmie (new) climbers read these forums.
Between this thread, and your post on the Queen Creek thread, I submit that you are a clueless gumby.
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mingleefu
Dec 29, 2004, 9:53 PM
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It might be worth noting that most of the climbing community is probably classifiable as a n00b of some sort ("climbing community" here refers to the real climbing community, and not just the internet climbing community). There aren't many folks out there who can claim a decade of experience or some other landmark of "Elite" status. I would probably agree that most the users of rc.com are n00bs of sorts. I'm not a newb to sport or trad, but I consider myself a Big wall n00b.
I would say however that a small percentage of the members contributed a large percent of the posts. Interestingly, the names I see contributing in mass quantity on rc.com are the same names I see blasting each other on supertaco.com. Therefore, I would suggest a severe revision to your claim: A small number of seasoned climbers dominate the internet climbing forums.
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climberstephen
Dec 29, 2004, 10:06 PM
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fshizzle: So, regardless of symantics or whether I am a gumbie or a what ever the other thing was, does the point still stand?
Number of times please2hold acted like an a-hole today: once (that I care to search around for)
Whaahahahah!
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une
Dec 29, 2004, 10:17 PM
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Climbed for how long: 2 years
On rc.com: 2 years although I just read most of the time
Active posts: I got flamed a couple of times so I don't post too much.
As far as everyone on these forums being a gumby is concerned I have to disagree.
Not more than a week ago I saw a thread about the history of rock climbing where none other than John Gill had posted a reply. If you need more experience than that your standards might be a bit too high.
Having said that I declare myself a n00b and a gumby and no one should pay any attention to what I write.
:roll:
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jt512
Dec 29, 2004, 10:23 PM
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In reply to: # of times I have seen stephenclimber look like an a-hole today: Twice.
I have not been following stephenclimber's illustrious career on this website, but one or two other threads like this one, and we're talking Gumby of the Year material. Kate, feel free to nominate.
-Jay
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