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OK so I bought this Petzl drill on eBay:

http://img.photobucket.com/.../MrTristan/drill.jpg

But for the life of me, I cant figure out how to take the bit (that came with it) out! Anyone had any experience with this drill? Please help!

-Tristan


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That's a Petzl caving drill. The bolt sleeve is the drill bit.

DO NOT USE this type of bolt for any rock climbing bolts. They are designed for rappelling use ONLY. They are not designed to withstand the forces involved in rock climbing.


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Hi, from the looks of it you have purchased a drill that is used only to insert the petzl autoforeuse self-drilling bolt. http://www.petzl.com/petzl/SportProduits?MotRecherche=Quick+Search&pays=0&Langue=en&Activite=26&Famille=14&SousFamille=0&Produit=359&Conseil=&ProduitAssocie=

It does not seem to be available on their site anymore, as it has been replaced with a more compact model.

This is what I believe is the case, I could be wrong. Good luck.


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Like boltdude said, don't use that drill (for anything actually, except maybe hanging cheap pictures).

That is an old petzl drill setup for using petzl selfdrives only. The problem with this drill is that the bolt that attaches to the sleeve is aluminum and the bolt is approx 3/4" long. I nearly shat the first time I replaced one!

Sorry mrtristan, that thing's only useful as an antique.

Pika makes a very good hand drill.


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If you can find one, pick up a drill like this(they aren't made anymore):
http://img90.exs.cx/...4126/DrillResize.jpg
It's the old Middendorf design.

PS-If anyone (Boltdude????) knows where I can find the collets for the smaller bits so I don't have to use SDS bits in the smaller sizes, it would be greatly appreciated if you'd shoot that information my way.


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from the sounds of it looks like you need a differant drill, fixe makes one for 37$ http://www.fixeusa.com


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Petzl does make a "real" drill. They're more $$ than the Fixe but don't have allen set screws to hold the drill in place. They retail at $50.

http://www.petzl.com/...eil=&ProduitAssocie=


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But it is also more costly. hmmm... allen screws holding it, or petzel drill...37$ or 50$ and then with the bit its 45ish$ and 70$ and then around 10 bolts 35-50$,10 hangers 25-50$, brush 20$, blow bulb,20$

Idk the fixe sounds a little bit like a deal to me... But thats just me


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the newer petzl drill (rock pecker) works very well and i like the quick-release for the bits.

downside = if you have big hands (like i do) it's less comfortable to use than some of the others out there.


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Just found Rockclimbing.com (no, haven't been on another planet, just mostly hanging out with the Grand Canyon river crowd), and saw some notes about the old HMW hand drill.

Here's the beta on the collets (from an old A5 catalog):

COLLET INFORMATION

200 DA (Double Angle) Collets for the Hurricane Mountain Works Drill. Available from J&L Industrial Supply (Livonia, MI) 1-800-521-9520. The 9/32" collet is popular as it fits most drills made for the Rawl #14 taper system. http://www.jlindustrial.com/

The standard collet is for 25/64" shanks and accepts all stan dard SDS carbide tipped drill bits in the 1/4", 5/16", 3/8", and 1/2" drill siz es.
Other size collets are available, in 1/8" to 25/64" in 1/64" increments. You can cut off about an inch the SDS bits just fine (leave about an inch of the 25/64" shank) so the overall drill length is shorter.

Each collet has a 1/64" range of collapse. For example, the standard collet will accept both a 25/64" and a 3/8" shank, and a 17/64" collet will accept both a 17/64" and a 1/4" shank. It is best, however, to buy the collet that fits each size shank perfectly that you intend to use. How ev er, the inverse is not true: DO NOT TRY TO JAM A LARGER SHANK INTO A GIVEN SIZE COLLET, for example, trying to place a 17/64" shank into a 1/4" collet will break the collet.

I think metric sizes are also available. Look for 200 DA collets

Cheers
John Middendorf


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But for the life of me, I cant figure out how to take the bit (that came with it) out! Anyone had any experience with this drill? Please help! -Tristan
You just unscrew the "Self-Drill Anchor" that is on there now. The bolt on the end of your drill which is now holding the anchor on, is the same diameter and thread as the bolt that goes in the anchor to hold the hanger on. It's probably just seized up, and needs a little persuasion (vise grips, or a small pipe wrench)


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