My old Defy's were so streched out the would come off my heel during heel hooks. I got the EVO a half size smaller and they will not come off. Had them for about a month expecting them to stretch a bit, but if they have it's minimal at best. The suckers stick and are super versitle. I've been loving them, and living with the pain. You want comfort? dont go here... Not a bad $100 shoe.

I use these (sized a bit smaller) for sport climbing and (sized 1/2 size larger) for long multipitch. They are the most aggressive shoe I have owned, so I can't compare them to any more aggressive models. They are awesome for sport, I have climbed many 5.11's and even a steep 5.12. Sized larger they are great for multi-pitch. They do start to hurt a bit after many pitches, but because they are velcro, I just take them off and clip them to the anchor. I feel it's worth it because they edge well on small things, and when I'm trad climbing I start to get a little scared when I have to step on a crappy little thing and I'm way above my last piece. I only gave four out of five stars because they don't make me magically climb 5.14's off the couch. Still waiting for that 5 star shoe!!!!

I bought these shoes specifically to use at the gym and I've been pretty happy with them. They are good for edging and their rubber is decent. The sole is stiff enough to be decent for cracks, but it's sensitive enough for technical face climbing. The rubber is not as sticky as my Sportiva Miuras, but its good enough for the gym. The "technical heel hooking ridges" seem a bit gimmicky to me, but the verdict is still out. I've been happy enough with them that i'll probably bring them to Bishop to see how they do bouldering outdoors. They're best for people with a medium to low volume foot; try the 5.10 mocs if you have a really high volume foot.

For those who don't want to spend $150 on high end Sportiva or 5.10 shoes, I would recommend these as pretty good all around shoes. The Evolv Defy would be better for slab climbing, but the Evo is a better shoe all around.

i just purchased a pair of these shoes...my feet are not 100% used to wearing climbing shoes( kinda new to the sport) but they seem to be just right..my only issue is that they murder my toes..from what ive been told, thats normal though..i have been able to really sort of latch on to some REALLY tiny holds that i couldnt before so overall, the pain is worth it to me..i love em

I've had these shoes for 2 years now. I climb a lot of indoor, and lately I've been climbing a lot of outdoor. These shoes have really held up well. Smearing is good, edging isn't that great, heelhooks are very nice. They even do well in cracks. Try to get these shoes on sale. They've raised the price recently. I'm getting mine resoled soon. LOVE THESE SHOES!!!