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robbovius
Feb 3, 2009, 2:41 PM
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lhwang wrote: Now, I'm not a mom so I will readily admit that I don't know what it's like to try to balance climbing and motherhood.
Groan. then stop speculating about it. trust me, you have no idea. you are applying value judgments to that article, which are based in some cultural prejudices and conventional wisdoms you've embraced becasue they happen to fit your worldview and hopeful expectationa of what the experience MIGHT BE LIKE. its not like that. trust me, I'm an expert.
I happened to read that article, a while ago actually, and I happen to think that she's whining.
I am a dad (3 kids: 2 daughter grown adn away in college, and...), and these days a single parent to boot (...a 16 YO son who live with me. his mom moved away to live with her BF) . in 2003, one day when I was climbing at the local crag, College Rock, my middle daughter called me requesting a ride home (as told her to call and request) from dance.. so I asked my parteners to pack up my gear when they were done, and then I bailed for the parental responsibility.. just before Ileft tho, one of them said to me, - a woman I might ad who's a rc.com member of some reknown for her many high altitude epics - said to me, in all seriousness, "you do to much with your kids". like, what?
In reply to: I'm really hopeful though that my husband and I will be like Don and Phyl Munday, who had a kid and still managed to do tons of first ascents in B.C., and that other people won't judge me saying that I'm making my kids miserable.
its nice to have dreams, but like most of the childless, you really haven't a clue what you're in for. neither did I. neither does anyone. had I known, I wouldn't have wasted my time speculating. ;-)
In reply to: It pisses me off that you would never see an article like this written by a man.
tha'ts because everyone, men and women alike wouldn't believe it, and subsequently vilify him for being a crybaby - the male subculture does not include the insta-solidarity stereotypically attributed to the female subculture.
plus I mean, yeah you have to multitask and juggle, and when they're really little you can't, you CAN NOT do fun things for yourself as much, no matter how much you want to but, eh, there you are, "the great circle of life" etc, and all. you have to stoically accept it, accept the hard work and embrace the immense joy of watching them grow and develop, and wait for the time to go by so that your own time comes back. men are - stereotypically attributed to be - better stoics.
trust me, [the rhetorical] nobody says thanks for what one does as a parent, even the kids. doesn't matter. the parenting experience includes the purest joy, better than any other.
remember, you asked VVVV
In reply to: Anyway, any thoughts? Especially from climbing dads and climbing moms...
(This post was edited by robbovius on Feb 3, 2009, 2:46 PM)
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