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tigerlilly


May 21, 2009, 3:12 PM

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Re: [adatesman] SAFETY ALERT- MORE ALIEN FAILURES
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adatesman wrote:
tfs6755 wrote:
I think it is possible that these cams never actually were sold in a store, ie they were factory rejects, since the history of the cam cannot be verified, the test result is not conclusive. Perhaps this has no bearing, but it is a scenario that you have not controlled for. As for the softness of the lobe aluminum, or that a complete factory reject could get out the door, that to me is a larger concern.


Nothing is known about the Red, but I believe the Purple was purchased new from the guy on MP that I bought it from. I've just not yet had an opportunity to track down his phone number to get the full story. Its on the list for today though, now that things have calmed down a bit.

Since I sent in the red cam, let me tell you what I little I know about it.

I bootied it last summer from Yellow Ridge, in the Near Trapps (Gunks). It was well placed and not overcammed. I cleaned it easily in a matter of minutes, from a good stance, with a nut tool to help the lobes with the broken trigger wire. Given the popularity of the route and the ease with which I cleaned it, I sincerely doubt it was there long. I may have been the first party to come along since it was abandoned.

It was marked with green electrical tape. Perhaps the former owner will read this and recognize their gear and give us more information. I may even be able to find the date I bootied it if I try hard enough.
Edit: Date of booty was Aug 23, 2008.



My interpretation of the situation at the time, totally specutative, is that the leader had fallen on it and retreated, so that no one had attempted to clean it. Could also be that the trigger wire broke on placement and that the 2nd was either inexperienced at gear removal or lacked a nut tool to assist the crippled lobes.

I inspected the piece and found the 3 broken main cable filaments and parked it on a shelf as a souvenier until the Aric and the Lab came along. I decided to send it in to see how much strength a cam with obvious damage had lost. I never thought it would turn out as it has.

As far as the cam not having been sold in a store and was a factory reject, I think that is crazy wild speculation and just plain silly. Does anyone know of, or ever heard of an outlet for factory reject Aliens? Does CCH actually reject anything? Since the number of cams sold in stores almost certainly exceeds the number of factory rejects finding their way into the outside world (which may in fact be zero) by orders of magnitude, probability alone says it was store-bought.

Kathy


(This post was edited by tigerlilly on May 21, 2009, 5:28 PM)



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