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pfwein


Jun 22, 2009, 8:15 PM

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Re: [dingus] Anything wrong with this newbs anchor?
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dingus wrote:
pfwein wrote:
Another way to look at this is that Dingus's intuition is that with sufficiently short slings, limiter knots are unnecessary. He may well be right, but denying that limiter knots will reduce forces if a piece pops is really getting silly.

Allow me to requote myself:

In reply to:
There is virtually no proof whatsoever that limiter knots provide any sort of benefit at all.

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Dingus wants to put money where his mouth is.

You sure get worked up My money WHERE MY MOUTH IS? Take a look in the mirror pal, and PAY YOUR OWN PROOFS. I'm not the one asserting the magical properties of limiter knots. I only asked a loaded question.

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I'm serious on this--subject to us mutually agreeing on a test--loser will pay Aric

I don't use limiter knots so I'm not really that intereeted. I simply asked to see some proof.

Now this question and the subsequent search for proof that doesn't exist may have something to say about conventional wisdom and climbing, as well as the tendency of internet climbing forums to spout theory as if it were fact.

Call someone else out next time.
DMT
Nice job in ignoring the point I made about using the sliding-x on long slings without limiter knots. I know you wouldn't do that--why don't you admit it so any noobs here are not confused on that issue.
You want to explain why you wouldn't use a sliding-x on a "long" sling without limiter knots?
(I'll let you tell me what "long" means here.)
I don't mean to put a nasty tone on these posts and am happy to take it off.
But you are the one who wrote "I challenge any one of you to PROVE limiter knots actually provide a real benefit and aren't just waste of time."
I accepted your challenge with an offer to put some money on it--now I'm the guy who sure gets worked up?
I'll accept your offer to take a look in the mirror (and upon doing, I may have adopted a slightly different tone in my previous post).
You want to take your own advice about that mirror?
Edit: by the way, your point (if I understand it) regarding the lack of "evidence" regarding limiter knots almost has me wondering if we're talking about the same thing here.
What do think is going to happen to Force as a Mass Accelerates (which, upon a piece pulling, will happen to some extent with limiter knots and to a greater extent without the knots)? Has somebody hacked into Dingus' account here and is just posting nonsense?


(This post was edited by pfwein on Jun 22, 2009, 8:19 PM)



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