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jt512


Aug 29, 2009, 1:17 AM

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Re: [olderic] Quickdraw Distinction - Bolt Side | Rope Side w/same biner
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olderic wrote:
jt512 wrote:
olderic wrote:
jt512 wrote:

So are the bolt-protected 5.15s. If that doesn't meet your arbitrarily narrow view of what "real climbing" is, then too bad for you.

Jay

That's the typical knee-jerk sport climber/boulderer response - our pursuit is distilled down to the pure essence. Mainly used as an excuse when all the extraneous stuff turns out to be too hard and scary.

Check your own knee-jerk reaction. I don't exclude trad climbing from "real climbing." I just understand that it's not the only kind.

Jay

However embracing and encompassing potential danger has been an integral part of the climbing experience for several hundred years. It's only the last couple of decades that a revisionist approach has been taken - attempting to use the same term - "climbing" - to describe their dumbed down sanitized activity. For all your recent lip service to recognizing all types of climbing experiences as valid - you have a long history of being derogatory towards old school attitudes and approaches. That's a kind of climbing too - more in tune with the multi century history of climbing.

I have not been derogatory to trad climbing, except to express my opinion that it is uninteresting. What I have been derogatory about are dismissive attitudes like yours.

Jay


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