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sspssp
Mar 6, 2010, 12:13 AM
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btreanor wrote: These comments are focused on cragging pants, which really don't need to be softshell, water resistant, windproof, and so on. But for a pair of pants to wear at Josh (I laugh my ass off at the knuckle heads trashing $150 Patagonia pants at Josh) and for most Grade I to Grade IV routes, I just want a fecking bomber pair of cotton pants.
Right, but for summer climbing in Yosemite and even Tuolumne (for instance) most of what goes under "soft shell" is either too heavy and hot or flimsy material that gets trashed quickly. I have found it difficult to find light weight, nylon pants that are durable for warmish climbing that also has zipped pockets and are not black. Most light weight pants with zipped pockets are a high-tech wind/water resistant and will blow out a knee the first time you take a 6 foot "take" on an Indian Creek climb (my experience anyway).
As far as pataguchii clothing, I understand laughing at people cragging in $100+ pants, but...
I won't craig/climb in cotton. I started up a grade IV on a sunny day in cotton, had a thunderstorm come of a "clear blue sky" and although it was not as dire as "almost killed me" I was miserable and lucky there was almost no wind (for such a hard rain).
And I don't even like hiking, say, out of the back areas, like Joshua tree, in wet cotton.
I have gone off to do one pitch cragging, found the route occupied and ended up on multi-pitch instead.
So I just won't wear cotton when climbing outdoors. Even if I am planning on short climbs. It doesn't happen.
Even my socks and underwear are synthetic.
Hypothermia does that to a person.
As to the OP, the pataguchi simple guide pants are pretty close to what I am looking for. I have a tan pair that I have climbed in exclusively for years (for warmish conditions) that have zipped pockets, are not hot, has no holes and shows only minimal wear. A climbing buddy of mine the other night mentioned that I had been wearing the same pair for years. I thought, "he's right, I should buy another pair before they go off the market". So I looked, but the "redesigned" simple guide is only in black (the other versions are too heavy and hot). But i would take my current pair over 5 pairs of disposal $20 pants. YMMV.
cheers
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