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yanqui


Mar 14, 2010, 6:19 PM

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Re: [j_ung] Can you downclimb and still get the onsight?
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j_ung wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
j_ung wrote:
lena_chita wrote:
dingus wrote:
angry wrote:
I've downclimbed to ledges, to the ground, and to rests and still claimed the onsight.

Cool.

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It's not a huge stretch to wait a day and call it the same.

I see now where you are going wrong. Let me break it down. You walk up to a cliff you have never seen before. You go up to that cliff, you climb it without preview, you climbed it 'on sight.'

Climb up part way, climb down, I can dig all that.

But when you climb all the way down to the ground, pack up your shit and leave? Go home to a nice warm bed and dreams of flying horses?

Then the cliff is no longer in sight.

So this leader tried, but failed to climb the cliff during his first sighting. He did not get the on sight.

Its very simple really.

DMT

I propose a definition of an "attempt": an attempt on a single-pitch route ends when the climber unties from the rope.

I think that, sometimes, things will remain undefined except in our own minds, and that this is okay. Smile

In case it wasn't clear, I was trying to make a joke. Tongue

Ah, my bad. Damned words. Laugh

There's this hilarious monologue in the video "Onsight" where Jerry Moffat tells about when he first heard the French using the term "onsighting". Moffat says he got in a massive argument by insisting to the French "I WILL onsight your routes". And the French come back with "No, you cannot onsight these routes". Moffat comes right back with "Yes I can." And the French reply in turn: "Impossible. You cannot on sight these routes" Then Jerry comes back with: "I CAN onsight your routes. I WILL go there and onsight all of your routes". And so on.

Then Moffat laughs in the monologue and says it was only years latter that he realized they were talking about two completely different things.


(This post was edited by yanqui on Mar 14, 2010, 6:21 PM)



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