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Re: [adatesman] totem cams now available?:
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patto
Jul 18, 2010, 12:18 AM
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adatesman wrote: FWIW, Splittercams (both the newer Trango ones and the original SG 2cams and 4cams) can do the 2nd picture.
mheyman wrote: Place them using only two cams? If you do this the strength is halved and you can do this with most traditional four cam units.
True. But I would readily trust these babies in two cam mode over any other cam. The other ones its impossible to align the force in the correct direction (along the plane of the cam lobes). The camming action is compromised.
mheyman wrote: Place them in flairs? I think we need to fully understand the camming angle, application of force and the tradeoffs these entail before we consider this true and entirely beneficial. Totem certainly hasn’t explained much on their web site.
Very true. I'm not going to take whippers on 40degree flairs on the first day i get these. Alot of playing is needed. As far as the forces go these can be calculated by the angle between the contact point and the cable attachment. 7 degrees (as opposed to 13-16) means a doubling of the forces. Mild flares would be ok, severe flares if it holds then you might get deformation and failure at low fall loads.
Bolter wrote: Wrong on the springs. They are like the C3s.
EDIT: I agree.
Anyway, like most here I think can agree, hands on use is necessary to understand the real world capabilities of these. I'm excited by I can't guarantee that these wont be another ultra niche product with few real advantages.
(This post was edited by patto on Jul 18, 2010, 4:47 AM)
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Post edited by patto
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