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Re: [jacques] piton, the ancestry of bolt:
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sbaclimber
Mar 6, 2015, 8:09 PM
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I am going to go (waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy) out on a limb here and take a shot a knowing where you are coming from...
...if based on nothing else than rather frequent reports of "newbie" climbers f'ing up and getting themselves hurt, both in- and outdoors.
When I started climbing 20+ years ago in the 'dacks region in NY, there were gyms for "sport" climbing, but just about everything outside was still "trad" (in the american sense of the words). It was simply a given, that if you wanted to climb outdoors you either toproped or placed your own pro...period.
20 years later, there are definitely many more climbers coming out of the gym and climbing real rock than before, and many more without the basic understanding that outside there is often not a bolt every 4', which *can* lead to accidents (although, I think, there are fewer caused by this reason than you think). But....IMO, a discussion about what is "sport" and what is "trad" will not lead to a solution. Beyond saying, "this climb is bolted like a gym climb" vs "this climb is not", there isn't much you can give the gumby in information that will help him/her decide whether or not to climb a route. They need to know what the beta means before embarking, or find it out (unfortunately, sometimes, the hard way) themselves.
(This post was edited by sbaclimber on Mar 7, 2015, 7:24 AM)
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Post edited by sbaclimber
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