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Oct 16, 2011, 4:36 PM

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Re: [ilikepargo] Climbing with Noobs
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I think your assessment is a little harsh. Don't climb near you? You know, there are safe methods of learning that don't involve "watching and learning". I propose to you that none of us ever learned to be proficient by just watching. Sure you learn, a little, but not like you would with hands on. You don't learn to belay a leader by watching someone else do it. You learn by belaying a leader. The same goes with rapping and cleaning. There are safe ways to let noobs have hands on. With belaying; that's easy. You just have someone back up the brake strand. If the noob screws up, belayer #2 has the rope. With rapping and/or cleaning, you can have someone at the top of the route to make sure they're either anchored or on belay 100% of the time. Totally safe. You can even back up the rappel twice. Once with a friction hitch, and again with a fireman's belay if need be. My point is that to suggest that no one take "noobs" out and let them do anything is kind of ridiculous. We were all noobs once, and would be still if we didn't have mentors to safely teach us the proper way to do things. Should we not let them tie in themselves either, in the event that they mess up the knot? No one expects a noob to "safely clean anchors". We, as the more experienced party ensure that it is a safe experience. How would you have felt if the first time you belayed a leader, some asshole came up to you and said "hey noob, sit this one out, just watch and learn, oh and by the way, if you must belay, please don't do so near me, you might make a mess." My guess is you wouldn't have liked that at all. No one would. Unless you came out of the womb knowing how to lead, clean and rappel, you're kind of being a hypocrite.

*edited for horrendous grammar

(This post was edited by jjones16 on Oct 16, 2011, 6:31 PM)

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