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angry
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I bet there's a million types out there. Lets get the pro's and con's of the styles in one thread.
Me
Dahn Yoga.
Pro, good stretch, deep meditation, brain respiration, great community, and tai-chi options. It's a great way to attempt to focus Ki energy
Con, not as physical, no asana poses, if you aren't into meditation and your spiritual side it's silly.
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chrisparedes
Feb 2, 2006, 3:59 PM
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I practice Yoga purely because I like the deep stretches, and my increase in flexibility and core strength. I dont meditate or know anything about the philosophy of Yoga however, its something that I can see myself doing for years to come. My style is "I dont want any more back pain" Yoga.
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acacongua
Feb 2, 2006, 4:13 PM
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Angry: Is that the type of yoga where your breathing is similar to panting like a dog? I went to a yoga class like that years ago and it was fantastic for sleep.
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Feb 2, 2006, 4:37 PM
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In reply to: Angry: Is that the type of yoga where your breathing is similar to panting like a dog? I went to a yoga class like that years ago and it was fantastic for sleep.
Most Yoga schools teach some kind of pranayama, but the breathing exercise you might be thinking about is probably called kapalabhati, or generally "breath of fire" (not the exact translation, though). I didn't think of it as much like "panting like a dog" as like the breathing you see women in labor doing... more of a "hee, hee, hee" :-) Lots of forms of Yoga practice this, my Bikram class last year would finish each session with it.
Yoga is supposed to be individualistic. The pros and cons will likely be different for each person. And most people will tell you that the most important part of any practice is finding a class and a teacher that you like and respect, the style itself is less important.
I can't help it, I really like Yoga Journal. Their website is chock full of information. If you're interested in Yoga but don't know where to start or don't know much about the different styles here are a few helpful things to read:
The Yoga FAQ: http://www.yogajournal.com/newtoyoga/820_1.cfm
A Yoga Style Guide (note, though, these are they major styles, from my first scan through I think more obscure practices like Dahn or Yin are not listed): http://www.yogajournal.com/newtoyoga/165_1.cfm
A fun little QUIZ to help you decide what style of yoga might be best for you: http://www.yogajournal.com/newtoyoga/497_1.cfm
My favorite, the Pose Finder: http://www.yogajournal.com/...index.cfm?ctsrc=tnav
Hope this helps! Namaste. :D
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Feb 2, 2006, 5:18 PM
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As a instructor I have to agree that Yoga is very similar to art in that no two instructors styles are exactly the same. I have been to many classes where all teachers were conducting the same discipline but still had very different classes.
Most studios have some sort of deal for your first class, so the best thing to do is try a couple till you find one you like(After 5 or so maybe it just isn't for you). Personally I teach Power yoga which focuses more on balance, core strength, and flexibility; rather than meditation or philosophy. My power yoga may be different from someones else's because I gear mine more towards men by stretching mostly the upper body and lower back, also I throw a lot of palates and gymnastics in as well.
Some people love it and others want something else, and in California there is no shortage of instructors.
-Good luck
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Mezcal yoga...open mouth, invert bottle, chew and swallow worm while performing twenty jumping jacks (this may require practice), rinse and repeat. Very relaxing. :twisted:
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mother_sheep
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Last night I did my first Core Power Yoga class in a room that was heated to 106 degrees. It was a 75 minute class with a series of pretty intense poses with Savasana in between several poses and followed up with Kapalabhati towards the end . The heat really seemed to loosen up my body. By the time we got to the second set of posses, my body was more willing to accept the positions without the usual resistance. The heat was intense. I could literally wring out my top after class. I felt cleansed after it was over. The only thing it was lacking was meditation, which I think is something that I need. Is there a particular style of yoga that focusses on the intense poses of Core Power + meditaion?
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shakylegs
Feb 2, 2006, 6:06 PM
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Intermediate kripalu here.
I find the poses are gettng much more difficult to maintain, I can build up a sweat, and there's a nice 10-minute death pose/meditation at the end.
Something must be working, because my abs are getting taut again, and my thighs and buttockal area still ache a few days after.
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acacongua
Feb 2, 2006, 6:47 PM
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Outdoorsie, that was useful ... thanks.
Does anyone else get hypnotized by the dancing characters in Mother_sheep's sig?
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mother_sheep
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In reply to: Outdoorsie, that was useful ... thanks. Does anyone else get hypnotized by the dancing characters in Mother_sheep's sig?
acacongua, it's superhero yoga. :-)
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I practice Ashtanga Yoga and love it for a couple of reasons:
-Physically challenging and athletic moves combined with the meditative aspect of yoga. I like my yoga routine to be a fairly intense workout.
-Deep stretching as well as strength and core exercise.
-The flow-style movement (I believe ashtanga is a type of vinyasa yoga) that links everything together. This just feels "right" to me and helps cultivate the proper breathing and mental state.
-Heat generation. I don't know if this is true for all styles of yoga, but my routine really warms me up. It really seems to generate body heat, which feels great and loosens my muscles. A shortened routine makes the perfect warm-up for climbing or other physical activity.
Also, a lot of these factors make it a great supplement for climbing.
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outdoorsie
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In reply to: The only thing it was lacking was meditation, which I think is something that I need. Is there a particular style of yoga that focusses on the intense poses of Core Power + meditaion?
Just a couple of possibilities... and again, every studio and teacher is different, so it's really hard to predict just by the name of the class what you're going to get.
If you liked the heat, you might try Bikram. The whole purpose of Bikram seems to be *really* building the heat in your body and help expel many toxins in your system. The poses themselves are really challenging, and they are usually presented in a format that allows for an odd change of consiousness. After an hour and a half in that 110-degree room, intense poses and then pranayama... I was seeing auras. Or about to pass out. One of the two. I liked it and practiced once a week last winter.
Maybe, though, the best idea would be for you to pick up a second class. Probably your yoga school offers a lot of different classes. Right now, I like the challange and flow in my Vinassa and Ashtanga classes, but once every two weeks or so I take a Yin yoga to add some meditation: to slow down and reflect on the poses more intently. Anyway, if you're not getting exactly what you want from any one class, take two! You don't have to double your time spent at the studio if you don't have the time, just alternate, one power yoga class, one Kripalu class...
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Its all about the teacher. I do what you'd call Vinyasa yoga, I've taken classes under this name from 7 different teachers. One woman had the most amazing flows following breath, I felt so graceful going from one pose to another. Another woman has very intense classes, after she exhausted us she brought us into some balance poses and I felt like outdoorsie:
In reply to: After an hour and a half in that 110-degree room, intense poses and then pranayama... I was seeing auras. Or about to pass out. One of the two.
Just that combination of exhaustion and concentration, it was fantastic!
I would like to try a pure Ashtanga class, one that would go through the entire series perhaps, but they always seem to be at bad times for me.
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I practice Hatha yoga, I like the holistic approach.
http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/styles-of-yoga/hatha-yoga.asp
I'm interested in Ananda yoga, I may visit a center near me for a weekend retreat one day soon. Anyone familiar with this? I guess you repeat affirmations while you're in your poses. Looks like it would be interesting to give it a go.
http://www.expandinglight.org/
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Feb 14, 2006, 7:13 AM
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i am into hatha flow.
i hope to be into ashtanga again, once my injuries have healed.
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In reply to: Last night I did my first Core Power Yoga class in a room that was heated to 106 degrees. It was a 75 minute class with a series of pretty intense poses with Savasana in between several poses and followed up with Kapalabhati towards the end . The heat really seemed to loosen up my body. By the time we got to the second set of posses, my body was more willing to accept the positions without the usual resistance. The heat was intense. I could literally wring out my top after class. I felt cleansed after it was over. The only thing it was lacking was meditation, which I think is something that I need. Is there a particular style of yoga that focusses on the intense poses of Core Power + meditaion?
Mother Sheep...sounds like you went to a "non-certified" Bikram Yoga class. Check out this site and see.... www.bikramyoga.com They can only call it Bikram if the instructors have gone through training at this place.
I practice Bikram on a daily basis. The heat cleanses the body, allows the muscles to stretch father, and you come away from 90 minutes of intense work with a sense of pure calm. The best part is, since there are 26 poses done always the same, always twice, aways the same order...the class becomes more of a personal moving meditation. You get to a point where you are instinctively moving through the poses and more focused on he inner calm and your personal sanctuary.
Plus...it's a great complimentary training for climbing!
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piton
Feb 23, 2006, 10:17 PM
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the gumby
basically you overcam a #4 camolot in a 5.6 downclimb
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one900johnnyk
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iyengar, because it has more hippy bs than yours does....
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ridgeclimber
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Ashtanga is a good type which combines the good elements of several styles. Good for strength, endurance, stretching, breathing, etc.
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I practice hatha flow
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Ashtenga for two years now, though I take the summers off. It has been fantastic.
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Anusara yoga for me.
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Started with iyengar for 3 years and been doing astanga for 11 years now. I find it the best style for self practice too due to the defined sequence.
Love the dynamic nature of astanga.
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me and my wife do bikram once a week on saturday mornings because the center provides a sitter for the children's participants. If it weren't for that nothing.
And we love it
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great thread!
i have found 'power yoga' in santa monica,, not to be confused with
In reply to: my first Core Power Yoga class in a room that was heated to 106 degrees.
there is no artificial heating,, but it gets crazy hot ..
power yoga is an evolved practice through adopting many forms of yoga..
i walked into yoga in september and now i am hooked.! i go five or six days a week.. Given, that it is by far the best/complete workout for you core!, muscle tone, flexibility, stamina, endurance, that i have ever experienced, but the improvement of mental & physical detachment from all the dayly nonsense (buying the 'cool' jeans/ slim waist and beefy biceps), is absoulty outstanding.
yoga has enabled my mind to become less analytical, less reactive.. i have greater appreciate my joints,my tight knees, and neck and my spine, for my breath, for my finger tips and my heels..
No mercy our minds have!,, always racing from one issue to the next never leting us rest! focus means you have to disregard, or not accept things(dont like the not accepting things)..but only by 'focusing' on one thing (like the breath) can we start to only begin to control the mind..
rather than focus i think yoga is teaching me awarness,, to be in a state of complete clamness and acceptance , to be able to take someting in(a sound or a pain or a breze) embrace that something, then let it go without being distraction or be taken away form your stillness.
walking the slackline (for me) was only the beginning of me being aware of my awareness...
but i preach to all,,! that on the line you gain clarity and strength,, and throguh that, you start to become aware...
so like wise,, more importantly than all that good health stuff and all the mental growth,,,, on top of all that,, power yoga has made me become a much 'stronger' slackliner....!! :D :wink:
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Ashtanga- approximately once a week for the last two years.
I really enjoy the physical challenge of that particular, but the con is that its rather scant on the spiritual aspect. I've been thinking about exploring Iyengar some more as sort of a balance to the physical nature of Ashtanga.
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gymslackerclimber - I'm looking for a good yoga place in Santa Monica. Where do you go, and where would you suggest going? Any teachers you would recommend for a yoga n00b?
For the rest of you: I'm considering replacing one of my climbing evenings with a yoga class (I currently climb TRSa, and run 2-3 other days of the week (a light run 1-2 days, with a longer or higher intensity run on Sunday)). Would this be an advisable training option? Would I get the benefit of the yoga only once a week, with a little less climbing, or should I consider working in a yoga class more frequently in conjunction with a light run day?
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Primarily hatha here, with Power and Ashtanga from time to time.
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In reply to: I'm looking for a good yoga place in Santa Monica. Where do you go, and where would you suggest going? Any teachers you would recommend for a yoga n00b?
i go to power yoga,, they have two spots, one on santa monica blv., east of 5th, above the radio shack. And their main studio, with their retail shop is on 2nd just south of santa monica blv.
you can read a little summary on each teacher at poweryoga.com.. bryan(the creator of power yoga) is'obviously' awsome,,, ally is great, she really kicks your ass...
many teacher are very good, they all have different styles, some you go back to some you dont,, but you usually find a few that you connect with, but i totally recommend going back to every teacher you try,, you dont always take in everything the first time.. i found myself not liking alot of the teachers in the beginning, i tried them once and that was it,, i found 'my' teacher already i thought.. but i was totally missing it, sooner or later i went back, and i found that i totally loved them... Its what you make of the class... try all the teachers!!,,, just stay open..
and its run on donation,, they recommend 11$... im a student, i go many times a week,, lets just say i dont give the full 11 each time..
really,, not many could afford that,, for anyone who practices daily, even 5$ is 25-35 a week, 100+$ a month :shock:
but thats the beauty of donation,, and the teachers are totally comforatable and understand that whatever you can/are give(ing) is the perfect amount....
karma is a powerful thing..
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I practice ashtanga yoga.
(also refered to as power yoga)
You get a deep stretch,but also I feel like I am getting a workout as well except without soreness or exhaustion afterwards. It is great for warming up or cooling down or as a light workout on rest days to get the blood flowing and relax.
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If you every get chance, try Erich class. I hear he's writing a new book this yr. (wont be touring much). But, I'm telling ya, Give him a try...most amazing person you'll ever want to meet.
http://www.movingintostillness.com/erich.html
If you like, and if he comes to Maryland this year...I can let ya know. But YA, checkout his schedule.
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So, I've been hitting up Power Yoga, and it's amazing the prime location and swankness of the studio on 2nd for a place run on donations. :)
It's pretty amazing. After a class, I don't feel tired, or worked out, but loose and calm. I was doing some really great engineering and climbing the day after a yoga class. I've just been going to the "Yoga Basics" or "Basic Flow" classes so far, and I'm not sure I'm ready for the full 1.5 hour sessions with people that are significantly more practiced than me! Last night's class kicked my ass, though ... I was straining to get into every pose, my balance was off, and I just couldn't relax until the very end. Very odd.
I am having one problem though - I sweat. When I sweat, instead of sticking to my mat, I start sliding all over the place. It makes it very difficult to focus on my body and get the stretches when I can't hold the position. You'd think they'd make a mat that gets a little tacky when it gets wet, but no ... they seem to just get slippery.
Any suggestions on mat solutions that will help me get the most out of my yoga sessions?
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Fu** Yoga
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hugin - I have seen cloth (cotton?) yoga mats on the internet that work with your sweat. At the start of your session you're supossed to put a little bit of water at each end so they have some friction. the mat absorbs your sweat and uses it to give you the friction you need. I've never actually used a mat like this, but it sounds like the sort of thing you're looking for.
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I used a cotton mat once. Now, it's a doggy bed. It sucked. It slid all over the floor and was too small. In my hot yoga class most people just put a long towel over their yoga mat. Seems to work pretty well.
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I'm sure your yoga class is reeeealy hot. :lol: :wink: Spreading a towel over it sounds like a good idea.
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In reply to: I was straining to get into every pose, my balance was off, and I just couldn't relax until the very end. Very odd. I am having one problem though - I sweat. When I sweat, instead of sticking to my mat, I start sliding all over the place. It makes it very difficult to focus on my body and get the stretches when I can't hold the position. You'd think they'd make a mat that gets a little tacky when it gets wet, but no ... they seem to just get slippery. Any suggestions on mat solutions that will help me get the most out of my yoga sessions?
i also go to power yoga!! and i also sweated like a maniac,!!!
i brought little towels ,,,, one for feet and one for hands!! it really makes a difference!! ive been practicing for only about half a year,, but i go 5 days a week, and (as i kinda of see it) ive been getting cleansed, i done sweat as much , i still sweat tons, especially when there is a mat a foot away from a mat in every direction.. but i would think i need to wipe the sweat away from my face, or that i would need to take a drink, or some type of unnessary, reactive, distcrating, action like that..
but the beauty of it all ,,, as yoga (simpleness) starts to make sense to you,, i have realized,, (opened my eyes) on how unnecisarily unpeaceful we make things on ourselves.. and how quick we are to get distracted,,or rather,, it opened my eyes to how much we actually look for/invite/ become accustomed to distraction in our minds, that we miss the present and what we are feeling (NOW).... the present is a powerful thing and i know for me,, that i am still learning how to appreciate the current moment ...
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Been doing yoga off and on for a couple years, trying to get back into it regularly now. Love the more "physical" styles, though I still get a nice relaxation thing going as well, esp. in the hours/even days after a really good class. Been to a couple Yoga for Climbers classes and those were really cool. As a climber, strong core, good balance, and a peaceful mind are great assets to have - yoga is a good way to help develop them.
Oh, and call me a label ho, but I have a killer Prana mat. Kinda springy, almost rubbery. Sticks really well to a wood floor.
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In reply to: i also go to power yoga!! and i also sweated like a maniac,!!!
I know! I took your advice to check them out! :D
What was weird about my last class was that the previous ones I had attended I had no problem with. I had to work on the poses, and find my balance, but I was relaxed and focused, and didn't need to strain that much. This last class, though, was really ... my body was trembling all over the place, I couldn't hold the simplest of poses, and I just was fighting with my body the whole time.
I've just been going to the "Basic Flow" classes, but I'll start hitting up other classes. Any teachers you particularly like?
I'll give the towel a shot. I tend to prefer the single solution (a mat that just works the way it needs to), but I'm not above a decent hack.
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In reply to: I'll start hitting up other classes. Any teachers you particularly like? I'll give the towel a shot. I tend to prefer the single solution (a mat that just works the way it needs to), but I'm not above a decent hack.
i go to ally alot, 'they say shes pretty intense' bryan is a world class teacher, anaswara is an excellent teacher, govindas is great, ashley, jay, marc all good.. :) Its totally up to you, as you probably already know threr are dozebs of teachers.. i love when they there is live music,,great energy!
oh and good luck with the 'single solution' thing.. you can buy one of those yoga towel for a small arm and a leg, or buy a 'better' yoga mat for only a, leg, arm, neck, and only a small portion of your shoulder.. :wink: :D
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Ahh..it's nice to read this thread on yoga and climbing. I've been doing yoga regularly for 5 years now and just recently started climbing. I was amazed to discover how closely the two are linked. Flexibility, strength and focus are just a few things that come to mind. Then of course there's all the really good stuff that develops over time...
I was curious for those of you who have been taking yoga for climbers - what makes it climbing specific? Does the teacher focus on specific areas of the body or do you just visualize that you're hanging off a steep mountain ;) just joking.
Seriously though..
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I do Ashtanga:
For those who want a serious workout, Ashtanga may be the perfect yoga. Developed by K. Pattabhi Jois, Ashtanga is physically demanding. Participants move through a series of flows, jumping from one posture to another to build strength, flexibility and stamina. It's not for beginners or anyone who's been taking a leisurely approach to fitness. The so-called Power Yoga is based on Ashtanga.
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hugin
Apr 24, 2006, 4:03 PM
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On the Ashtanga note, I should pass along some recent advice I've been getting in talking to folks about Yoga: I've heard from several instructors of Ashtanga that the jumps between poses really took a toll on their knees. It's probably not a problem for someone that'll be doing it for 3-4 hours in a week, but if you have knee or joint problems, I've been advised that it's not a good style to practice.
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granite_grrl
Apr 24, 2006, 4:32 PM
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In reply to: On the Ashtanga note, I should pass along some recent advice I've been getting in talking to folks about Yoga: I've heard from several instructors of Ashtanga that the jumps between poses really took a toll on their knees. It's probably not a problem for someone that'll be doing it for 3-4 hours in a week, but if you have knee or joint problems, I've been advised that it's not a good style to practice.
Very interesting! Its good to keep in mind that while yoga can help heal and make you stonger it can also hurt you pretty bad if you push too far before you're ready or your instructor doesn't explain the finer details of a pose to the class.
On the knees, in my Vinyasa class I'll switch between jumping and stepping between poses depending on how I feel. Having an injury doesn't always mean to stop yoga, but you will have to make certain you understand how to alter the poses (or which ones to skip). A good instructor and small class sizes will help with this.
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