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bigredscowboy
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This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing.
I think I have everything:
A Helmet
A taut leash
Hand up and thumbs in
Any other suggestions?
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jt512
May 16, 2008, 12:55 AM
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bigredscowboy wrote: This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing. I think I have everything: A Helmet A taut leash Hand up and thumbs in Any other suggestions?
Yeah, join the Navy. There's a career just waiting for you on the deck of an aircraft carrier.
Jay
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angry
May 16, 2008, 1:16 AM
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Are you prepared to rap off the core of the rope if your friend falls?
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bigredscowboy
May 16, 2008, 5:36 AM
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I would feel much safer rapping off the mantle
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Reaganchung
May 16, 2008, 5:54 AM
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first of all, it looks like the anchor is facing the wrong way. I dont know how that is suppose to take the force of someone swinging forwards you.
second is that you can clip the rope on the climber side and as the climber climbs higher then her or she would unclip it. this will hold back a swing if the climber fell.
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justroberto
May 16, 2008, 6:13 AM
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bigredscowboy wrote: This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing. I think I have everything: A Helmet A taut leash Hand up and thumbs in Any other suggestions?
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justroberto
May 16, 2008, 6:44 AM
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jt512 wrote: bigredscowboy wrote: This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing. I think I have everything: A Helmet A taut leash Hand up and thumbs in Any other suggestions? [image]http://www.rockclimbing.com/images/photos/assets/7/380177-work-Trotting.jpg[/image] Yeah, join the Navy. There's a career just waiting for you on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Jay
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king_rat
May 16, 2008, 10:44 AM
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I think for safety reasons you should be wearing a long sleeved top. You could scuff your elbows with that T shirt on.
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0x2102
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Gloves, you definitely need some gloves. Preferably the late-70's style black nylon mesh fingerless ones. Also, you should probably keep your headlamp attached to your helmet at all times, especially in the case where a tronsight attempt degenerates into a extended trangdogging session and you have to continue to spot the climber after dark. You might also consider wearing a hydration pack, as it looks like a harsh desert climate in that picture.
In this particular shot, it looks like the falling climber would come off the route in a huge wrecking ball type swing, you should probably have stacked a few crashpads between yourself and the large boulder to your right, or maybe employed a spotter to spot you.
Otherwise, that looks like solid technique. Way to climb safe!
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reg
May 16, 2008, 12:23 PM
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thumbs tucked - good, palms should be OP&OP.
am i crazy (edit, WTF) or is that half dome in the background?
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bigredscowboy
May 16, 2008, 1:28 PM
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Long sleeve shirt is imperative. I could have gotten an ouchie if I'd fallen
0x2102 wrote: Gloves, you definitely need some gloves. Preferably the late-70's style black nylon mesh fingerless ones. Also, you should probably keep your headlamp attached to your helmet at all times, especially in the case where a tronsight attempt degenerates into a extended trangdogging session and you have to continue to spot the climber after dark. You might also consider wearing a hydration pack, as it looks like a harsh desert climate in that picture. In this particular shot, it looks like the falling climber would come off the route in a huge wrecking ball type swing, you should probably have stacked a few crashpads between yourself and the large boulder to your right, or maybe employed a spotter to spot you. Otherwise, that looks like solid technique. Way to climb safe!
I can haz my spottr card nowz?
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bigredscowboy wrote: This is my friend DW going for the TRonsight or the TRash (I can't remember whether he had any beta or not) with me TRonsight spotting (aka TRonspotting) the swing. I think I have everything: A Helmet A taut leash Hand up and thumbs in Any other suggestions?
Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one...
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anykineclimb
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you should probably haved about 3 crashpads too
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Valarc
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bigredscowboy wrote: TRonsight ... TRash ... TRonsight ... TRonspotting
TRoll?
And besides, ya'll might laugh, but a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass when someone took a pendulum swing on toprope. Protip: don't bend over with your ass pointed in the direction of a potential swinging fall.
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May 16, 2008, 4:21 PM
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Valarc wrote: a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass
So what you're saying is your buddy had his head up his ass?
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May 16, 2008, 4:22 PM
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you should always pull as much stretch out of the rope as you can before you start up
makes all the difference between catching a fall and merely guiding a landing with our real stretchy ropes
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jt512
May 16, 2008, 4:47 PM
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j_ung wrote: Edit: Aaannnd, it's not clear what your ground anchor accomplishes.
It's used to reel in the fish.
Jay
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reg
May 16, 2008, 5:40 PM
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that pic is worth a thousand words 
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bigredscowboy
May 16, 2008, 7:34 PM
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In reply to: Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one... [image]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db37b3127ccea82255847a0400000015108AcuGrRy4as9[/image]
This is exactly what I've been looking for. How much does she charge?
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bigredscowboy
May 16, 2008, 7:38 PM
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Valarc wrote: TRoll? And besides, ya'll might laugh, but a buddy of mine got a concussion and broken bones from getting booted in the ass when someone took a pendulum swing on toprope. Protip: don't bend over with your ass pointed in the direction of a potential swinging fall.
If that were a big ugly TRoll TRonsighting this climb I probably would have used two anchor systems
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bigredscowboy
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bender wrote: you should always pull as much stretch out of the rope as you can before you start up makes all the difference between catching a fall and merely guiding a landing with our real stretchy ropes
This is probably a really good idea on a steep/overhanging route.
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bigredscowboy wrote: In reply to: Take a spotter's technique class. My daughter is teaching one... This is exactly what I've been looking for. How much does she charge?
I believe the going rate is about $50 an hour, plus plane tickets for the entire family to the climbing destination she chooses as acceptable for teaching the lesson. After all, I can't send a 5yo on the plane alone, can I?
P.S. This thread reminded me of an episode about 2 years ago:
My then-7yo son (completely on his own initiative) is spotting my then-3yo daughter while she climbs a 4-ft-tall boulder-- over and over and over. After doing this for good half- hour, DS says petulantly: Muummm, she doesn't fall! How would I EVER know that I'm spotting her the right way, if she doesn't fall?"
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bigredscowboy
May 17, 2008, 5:26 AM
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Should the crash pads be in front of or behind me? Is there any chance that I could just use a sumo suit instead?
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9 out of 10. where did you find this picture?
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bigredscowboy
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I took it in Red Rocks. This time however, what happened in Vegas got posted on RC.com
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bigredscowboy wrote: I took it in Red Rocks. This time however, what happened in Vegas got posted on RC.com
If you took it, how could you be the one doing the TRonspotting?
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bigredscowboy
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I have multiple personalities
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jt512 wrote: Yeah, join the Navy. There's a career just waiting for you on the deck of an aircraft carrier. Jay
...Seamen.
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That's Sunny and Steep area! Steep Thrills 5.12a :) Good climb! I remember there was a party that went at it after us, and one of them lead it and the other TR'ed it. She fell and took a massive swing directly towards the boulder. She had a spot that probably saved her years of back/spinal pain and issues. Then again, her spot got rolled, and this spotter would be been destroyyyyyyed by the swing.
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i think think the best thing about that picture is that if the climber had fallen, the spotter probably would not have been able to do anything... looks to me that she's standing in the wrong place to catch the swing and her anchor is preventing her from moving!
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bigredscowboy
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In reply to: her anchor is preventing her from moving!
HER?!
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rtwilli4
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looks like a girl...
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bigredscowboy
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Does "she" look hot?
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justroberto
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bigredscowboy wrote: Does "she" look hot?
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bigredscowboy
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justroberto wrote: bigredscowboy wrote: Does "she" look hot? I'd totally do her...
Hold on to your car seat tiger.
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I think bubble wrap and steel toe boots are imperative.
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justroberto wrote: bigredscowboy wrote: Does "she" look hot? I'd totally do her...
Ugggh, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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