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majid_sabet
May 27, 2010, 6:57 AM
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no, we are not going to die
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redlude97
May 27, 2010, 8:05 AM
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sport rappelling?
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scottek67
May 27, 2010, 11:25 AM
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hey I have a question. what are the arrows for in those pics? I think they are a nice touch but I would like to know what they are pointing at.
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swaghole
May 27, 2010, 1:24 PM
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redlude97 wrote: sport rappelling?
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the_climber
May 27, 2010, 1:38 PM
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Anyone else think that some of those pics could be a great tutorial on how to wedge/lift a boulder with cams?
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trenchdigger
May 27, 2010, 2:17 PM
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Which should probably be posted in a non-climbing forum so they can be torn apart there.
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majid_sabet
May 27, 2010, 4:15 PM
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the_climber wrote: Anyone else think that some of those pics could be a great tutorial on how to wedge/lift a boulder with cams?
Actually, I have seen cams lift of boulder with heavy load once so yes, you do have good point
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majid_sabet
May 27, 2010, 4:19 PM
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acorneau wrote: majid_sabet wrote: [IMG]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5252/screenhunter05may192305.jpg[/IMG] any question? Yeah. It's hard to tell from the picture, but what kind of Franken-knot are you using in the red webbing at the big locker? Looks like it could be a clove hitch or maybe a messed up bowline.
sometimes they use an extra loop to shorten the distance between the legs if one is longer than the other one if that is knot what you referring on the biner closer to protection
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acorneau
May 27, 2010, 5:07 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: sometimes they use an extra loop to shorten the distance between the legs if one is longer than the other one if that is knot what you referring on the biner closer to protection
No, I'm talking about the master point of the red webbing. Some sort of Munter/clove/bowline with an extra wrap in there.
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majid_sabet
May 27, 2010, 5:41 PM
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acorneau wrote: majid_sabet wrote: sometimes they use an extra loop to shorten the distance between the legs if one is longer than the other one if that is knot what you referring on the biner closer to protection No, I'm talking about the master point of the red webbing. Some sort of Munter/clove/bowline with an extra wrap in there.
should be a fat fig 8 with multiple cord going thru it where normally clove H is not allowed anywhere.
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rangerrob
May 27, 2010, 7:48 PM
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Was that photographer wearing blue leggings with hiking boots and a red shell jacket? You think he bought those leggings fromn the womens department at JC Penney? Or maybe from something more trendy, like H&M.
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Arrogant_Bastard
May 28, 2010, 6:25 AM
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Where's the problem exactly? One of the anchors doesn't perfectly mirror one of the reference figures of a SRENE anchor in a John Long book? Oh noes!
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Guran
May 28, 2010, 8:22 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: no, we are not going to die [IMG]http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5252/screenhunter05may192305.jpg[/IMG]
Yes you are! Metal on metal! 
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gunkiemike
May 28, 2010, 9:02 PM
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Just one question - did they build better anchors AFTER the anchors training? Cuz I see a bunch of cams-in-choss, single failure points, and non-distributed load.
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Bolter
May 28, 2010, 10:39 PM
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Oh jeeeeez.
A whole bunch of choss, ropes, webbing, cams, nuts, people =
YOU"RE GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!
A whole bunch of nOObs here criticizing other nOObs = sweet.
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bill413
May 29, 2010, 12:46 AM
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Bolter wrote: Oh jeeeeez. A whole bunch of choss, ropes, webbing, cams, nuts, people = YOU"RE GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!! A whole bunch of nOObs here criticizing other nOObs = sweet.
Welcome. Is this your first visit to RC.com?
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rangerrob
May 29, 2010, 11:09 AM
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Whenever someone uses the word noob, spells it with two capital O's.....they are a wanker and probably a newbie themselves
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sherpa79
May 29, 2010, 3:12 PM
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How many different ways can you say clusterf**k?
Assuming that this is "rescue" training, since it's a non-climbing anchor thread and the overall air of condescention, you guys can please stay away from me. Pick up your radio and call some climbers to build some "climbing anchors" to come get me.
How long was that sloping tyro you tensioned off that little boulder? And what makes you think that cobble wall won't just fall apart IF the boulder decides it wants to lever? Depending on the type of rock I think that thing will weigh somewhere between half a ton and a ton. Probably closer to half. Did you bolt it AND wrap it? I guess I'll stop the useless criticisms there as I'm not sure if you are serious....
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sherpa79
May 30, 2010, 1:16 AM
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I know, but how can you resist?
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curt
May 30, 2010, 3:32 AM
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rangerrob wrote: Whenever someone uses the word noob, spells it with two capital O's.....they are a wanker and probably a newbie themselves
Correct. You should use zeros--as in n00b.
Curt
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majid_sabet
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sherpa79 wrote: How many different ways can you say clusterf**k? Assuming that this is "rescue" training, since it's a non-climbing anchor thread and the overall air of condescention, you guys can please stay away from me. Pick up your radio and call some climbers to build some "climbing anchors" to come get me. How long was that sloping tyro you tensioned off that little boulder? And what makes you think that cobble wall won't just fall apart IF the boulder decides it wants to lever? Depending on the type of rock I think that thing will weigh somewhere between half a ton and a ton. Probably closer to half. Did you bolt it AND wrap it? I guess I'll stop the useless criticisms there as I'm not sure if you are serious....
and who do you call when those climbers of yours fuc*up on the walls?
more climbers?
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curt
May 30, 2010, 4:22 AM
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majid_sabet wrote: sherpa79 wrote: How many different ways can you say clusterf**k? Assuming that this is "rescue" training, since it's a non-climbing anchor thread and the overall air of condescention, you guys can please stay away from me. Pick up your radio and call some climbers to build some "climbing anchors" to come get me. How long was that sloping tyro you tensioned off that little boulder? And what makes you think that cobble wall won't just fall apart IF the boulder decides it wants to lever? Depending on the type of rock I think that thing will weigh somewhere between half a ton and a ton. Probably closer to half. Did you bolt it AND wrap it? I guess I'll stop the useless criticisms there as I'm not sure if you are serious.... and who do you call when...
Ghostbusters?
Curt
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sherpa79
May 30, 2010, 3:14 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: and who do you call when those climbers of yours fuc*up on the walls? more climbers?
Whatever dude. You've got a rescue fetish, that's clear. You've got some theoretical knowledge, congratulations. What happens when YOU screw up as it seems you are bound to do? I think the honorable Dr. Peter Venkman said it best...
"Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!"
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majid_sabet
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sherpa79 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: and who do you call when those climbers of yours fuc*up on the walls? more climbers? Whatever dude. You've got a rescue fetish, that's clear. You've got some theoretical knowledge, congratulations. What happens when YOU screw up as it seems you are bound to do? I think the honorable Dr. Peter Venkman said it best... "Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!"
I do not even think that I know the theoretical knowledge but I am just wondering how you come up with your conclusions .
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sherpa79
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majid_sabet wrote: I do not even think that I know the theoretical knowledge but I am just wondering how you come up with your conclusions .
Well, then, that's a good place to start.
I come to my conclusions based on your anchors which don't really look that well thought out, even for the demonstration they seem to be for.
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Arrogant_Bastard
May 31, 2010, 4:51 PM
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curt wrote: rangerrob wrote: Whenever someone uses the word noob, spells it with two capital O's.....they are a wanker and probably a newbie themselves Correct. You should use zeros--as in n00b. Curt
Quoted. For prosperity.
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majid_sabet
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sherpa79 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: I do not even think that I know the theoretical knowledge but I am just wondering how you come up with your conclusions . Well, then, that's a good place to start. I come to my conclusions based on your anchors which don't really look that well thought out, even for the demonstration they seem to be for.
ok, that is reasonable answer so let's take a look at some of your anchor setup so we see the difference and may be we learn a few things.
and before i forget, i would appreciate if you critique/analyze each anchor (as shown ) and let me know what then cons/pros are (if any).
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j_ung
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The green and brown Tricams are going to fail.
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