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Chinchen
Mar 23, 2012, 4:15 PM
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Been wanting to start this thread for awhile.
This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain.
Please think before coming into Bishop and throwing your tape and trash around and pooping under boulder problems (Just because you don't see chalk does not mean there is not a problem there)
This one take the cake. "HEY LOOK AT US!! WE DONT GIVE A FUCK!!"
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medusa
Mar 23, 2012, 4:45 PM
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Just clean it up, no need for whining!!!
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shockabuku
Mar 23, 2012, 5:26 PM
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That's weird. Why aren't there bullet holes in that?
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curt
Mar 23, 2012, 5:58 PM
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Yep, unfortunately that kind of impactful behavior only raises the visibility of climbers in the area--and the idea that something should probably be done to "manage" them.
Curt
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j_ung
Mar 23, 2012, 6:20 PM
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curt wrote: Yep, unfortunately that kind of impactful behavior only raises the visibility of climbers in the area--and the idea that something should probably be done to "manage" them. Curt
5 stars.
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caughtinside
Mar 23, 2012, 9:53 PM
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As unfortunate as this is, it isn't limited to climbing. Lots of the CA surf breaks have signs littered with stickers. Here in berkeley, the no blood for oil crowd has painted 'driving' below the stop.
It sucks and has no place in the outdoors though.
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Rubicon
Mar 23, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Ya it's not good for climbing access. With that said I've also seen many drunk ass Bishop folks putting bullet holes into every sign they see.
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edge
Mar 23, 2012, 10:09 PM
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medusa wrote: Just clean it up, no need for whining!!!
It's not whining, it's raising awareness. Lots of new climbers read these forums, and need to know that selfish actions can have lasting negative effects on our entire community.
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medusa
Mar 24, 2012, 5:55 AM
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Again, if it bugged you that much when you viewed it in person,
you should of cleaned it up! i would have, but bouldering, is like masturbating in a whore house. I don't go to the BM's ! would of never posted ant thing about it on the web...Like I should not
be doing now..
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medusa
Mar 24, 2012, 5:58 AM
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In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
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sp115
Mar 24, 2012, 7:49 AM
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medusa wrote: In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
I'll tell you what, you take a permanent marker to your forehead and write dumbass on it then start cleaning, I'll grab my camera and we'll see who gets the job done first...
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scottek67
Mar 24, 2012, 9:12 AM
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Chinchen wrote: This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain. 
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edge
Mar 24, 2012, 2:52 PM
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medusa wrote: In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!!
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shockabuku
Mar 24, 2012, 5:40 PM
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medusa wrote: you should of cleaned it up!
Notice the lack of a verb in that sentence fragment? "Should have", not "should of."
And perhaps he could have cleaned it up, but should have is a pretty strong judgement on someone else.
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johnwesely
Mar 24, 2012, 8:29 PM
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shockabuku wrote: medusa wrote: you should of cleaned it up! Notice the lack of a verb in that sentence fragment? "Should have", not "should of." And perhaps he could have cleaned it up, but should have is a pretty strong judgement on someone else.
He never said he didn't clean it up.
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Juzzme
Mar 25, 2012, 3:21 AM
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why us there plastic on top of the casket when the water is under neath? 
I don't think that is what they meant buy saying " set a dead man anchor." 
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majid_sabet
Mar 25, 2012, 3:59 PM
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this is why local cops hate climbers
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majid_sabet
Mar 25, 2012, 4:00 PM
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scottek67 wrote: Chinchen wrote: This is where those of us who give a shit can post pictures of stupid stuff others do to trash bouldering areas and make access and respect harder for the rest of us to gain. [image]http://i43.tinypic.com/ml2nie.jpg[/image]
is that a 6 footer box with someone in it ?
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Colinhoglund
Mar 26, 2012, 5:52 AM
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edge wrote: medusa wrote: In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!! Any solvent that would remove black spray paint would also likely remove the underlying paint as well and still leave a mess. The stickers would probably need a razor scraper and residue removal with WD40, which in a best case scenario might leave the sign intact, but probably scratches and shading. Add to this the fact that many law enforcement types would view unsolicited "help" as further vandalism or destruction of evidence (these guys can get real creative when dreaming up charges), and it may be unwise for the average well intentioned climber to take any action. At least by photographing, posting, and opening up a dialogue then some good may come from this. Again, it is about raising awareness.
1+ What he said
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CapsaicinKing
Mar 30, 2012, 8:11 PM
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This makes me sort of happy that I climb in areas that do not have frequent visitors.
(This post was edited by CapsaicinKing on Mar 30, 2012, 8:12 PM)
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jamesnater
Mar 30, 2012, 8:53 PM
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This is so lame. Though this type of vandalism is normal for California, it's the first time I've seen it done by climbers.
The most I've seen in Washington is spraypaint on boulders (from "420" to Swasticas to huge cock n' balls). It's stupid, hicks and rock crawlin' 4x4'ers got nothing better to do than spraypaint rocks and shoot guns into our crags.
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j_ung
Mar 30, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Here's one...
One of the climbing areas here has a parking lot that is on the grass/dirt right next to a grave yard. One day a couple years ago, the lot was overflowing full, so climbers continued to park further and further back, until some of them were parked on graves.
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Rubicon
Apr 4, 2012, 5:43 AM
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I wonder how many "Buttermilk Rd" signs have been stolen and subsequently replaced by the city of Bishop. :P
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ENARE
Apr 17, 2012, 4:15 PM
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edge wrote: medusa wrote: In the time it took you to photograph it and think about it U could of cleaned it!! these guys can get real creative when dreaming up charges In reply to: Especially the PO's in bishop.
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sp00ki
Apr 30, 2012, 9:58 PM
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caughtinside wrote: As unfortunate as this is, it isn't limited to climbing. Lots of the CA surf breaks have signs littered with stickers. Here in berkeley, the no blood for oil crowd has painted 'driving' below the stop. It sucks and has no place in the outdoors though.
As opposed to the stop signs people keep indoors?
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weschrist
Aug 14, 2012, 6:40 PM
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Fact is, the crags are getting WAY more thrashed than the limited graffiti on road signs suggest. I always chuckle to myself when people (climbers) talk about how environmentally conscious climbers are. BULLSHIT!
The areas we use generally support pretty unique ecosystems: caves, cliffs, talus fields, etc. Most climbers/boulderers don't give a flying fuk if they destroy a 4x10 patch of soil crust and fragile vegetation... hell, most will even make an effort to walk directly on it because it is nice, soft, relatively flat ground.
The base of most climbing areas lose vegetation at a rate of ~ 50-100 square feet a year as climbers continue to put their coats, packs, whatever ON the bushes or simply trample through them (King Tut boulder, Minimum Wall in Maple, Ferguson Canyon UT, to name a few). But don't worry, the vegetation 100' away gets ample fertilization... as long as it doesn't burn down because someone from CO thinks it is "gross" to pack out their shit wipes.
But yeah... letting everyone else know what a bunch of self-righteous douche bags we are by vandalizing street signs is what we should really be concerned about.
Did the Buttermilks get a shitter yet? I was pretty impressed at how little graffiti there was in the shitters at Maple. Maybe sports climbers AREN'T the worst of the bunch anymore...
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DonH
Aug 21, 2012, 6:37 PM
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I have noticed ALOT of climbs where individuals are leaving actual signatures somewhere on the boulder and date of when they sent it. why i have no clue. Ive noticed a few up in tramway. Another pet peeve of mine is the amount of trash some climbers leave at certain boulders they project all day. Being a boyscout when i was younger i cant imagine as to why one would trash the landscape. I escape the trashy areas of southern California to try and escape for a bit and low and behold, there is more.
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weschrist
Aug 21, 2012, 9:29 PM
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I bet you can track them down on 8a.nu
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