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chadnsc
May 11, 2012, 2:10 PM
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So the other day I went to take our new dog out for his evening bathroom break and found chunks of chocolate sprinkled in the corner of our yard.
Of course our little dog Dexter was all: 'oooo noms me eat!'. Being a killjoy I got Dexter out of there and spent the next hour raking up the dog deadly chocolate all the wile wondering WTF would someone do this?
Fast forward to last night around 11:30pm. Dexter starts going ape shit, barking, whining, and even howling. Wondering what was going on I went downstairs and see someone in my backyard. I flick on the lights and hop outside to see the 12 year old neighbor boy seeding my yard with a bag of bakers chocolate. I roared at the kid and he ran off.
I think the little bastard was trying to poison my dog with chocolate. I have no idea why. We've only had the 17 pound Dexter for a month and the boy's never interacted with the dog. I'm at a complete loss for why he'd do something like this.
I cute and nice, why you try hurt me?
Scary thing, last year a different neighbors elderly lab died from 'intestinal issues'.
I'm not looking forward to having to talk to the kids parents tonight after work. 
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May 11, 2012, 2:32 PM
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How did you not go over to the little fu**er's house right then and there?
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chadnsc
May 11, 2012, 2:44 PM
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Cooler heads prevailed. Mostly my wife and Dexter.
Also I was tired and in a moment of clarity realized that much more could be accomplished if both I and the kid's parents weren't sleepy.
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areyoumydude
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Well if it would have been Coco Puffs I'd say the little brat is a cereal killer in the making.
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chadnsc
May 11, 2012, 6:09 PM
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I no want coco puffs, I want pineapple.
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May 11, 2012, 7:46 PM
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You feed your dog pineapple?? PETA pm'd 
Maybe the kid doesn't know chocolate is poisonous to dogs?
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chadnsc
May 11, 2012, 8:00 PM
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No pineapple for Dexter. He was just curious what that weird spiky thing was!
I'm pretty sure the kid knows that at the very least chocolate is very bad for dogs.
My neighbor now thinks that his dog was poisoned via chocolate by the kid last year.
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edge
May 11, 2012, 8:54 PM
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chadnsc wrote: I flick on the lights and hop outside to see the 12 year old neighbor boy seeding my yard with a bag of bakers chocolate.
Johnny Cacaoseed?
Maybe he was just trying to establish cocao orchards for the good of mankind.
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chadnsc
May 11, 2012, 9:07 PM
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I have no idea but damn it if he was older . . . . well I probably would have lost my temper and be in big trouble.
Needless to say I think the kid may have some issues so hopefully this get's figured out and the kid gets help because I don't want to see this happen again.
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edge
May 11, 2012, 9:23 PM
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chadnsc wrote: I have no idea but damn it if he was older . . . . well I probably would have lost my temper and be in big trouble. Needless to say I think the kid may have some issues so hopefully this get's figured out and the kid gets help because I don't want to see this happen again.
Yeah, you did the right thing by waiting and thinking about it before talking to the parents. Heat of the moment emotions are seldom beneficial in the long run.
Be prepared for the parents to possibly be defensive about their kid. The facts as you relayed them here sound pretty convincing but they may accuse you of lying to protect him. You could always threaten to talk to the police to demonstrate your resolve.
The kid should be made to work community service at an animal shelter.
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edge wrote: The kid should be made to work community service at an animal shelter.
In light of the fact that he's actively trying to poison a pup, this would probably end tragically. If the kid is conscious of what he's doing then there's definitely some deeper issues here. If you don't already know the parents I'd suggest you be prepared to walk away from a confrontation, because the kid is either acting out or has some serious mental issues.
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areyoumydude wrote: Well if it would have been Coco Puffs I'd say the little brat is a cereal killer in the making.
you owe me a new computer screen
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chadnsc
May 14, 2012, 2:15 PM
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edge wrote: chadnsc wrote: I have no idea but damn it if he was older . . . . well I probably would have lost my temper and be in big trouble. Needless to say I think the kid may have some issues so hopefully this get's figured out and the kid gets help because I don't want to see this happen again. Yeah, you did the right thing by waiting and thinking about it before talking to the parents. Heat of the moment emotions are seldom beneficial in the long run. Be prepared for the parents to possibly be defensive about their kid. The facts as you relayed them here sound pretty convincing but they may accuse you of lying to protect him. You could always threaten to talk to the police to demonstrate your resolve. The kid should be made to work community service at an animal shelter.
You where right edge; the parents said that their son would never do something like that and pretty much closed the door on me.
My neighbor lent me his trail camera that is used for taking pictures of wildlife via a motion activated camera. I set the thing up and sure a shit the little kid was back on Saturday morning around 1am. Got a nice picture of it.
I contacted the parents Sunday morning with the photos and told them I was going to the police if they didn't do something to help their son.
I also went out and purchased and installed my own trail cam.
We'll see what's going to happen.
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chadnsc wrote: edge wrote: chadnsc wrote: I have no idea but damn it if he was older . . . . well I probably would have lost my temper and be in big trouble. Needless to say I think the kid may have some issues so hopefully this get's figured out and the kid gets help because I don't want to see this happen again. Yeah, you did the right thing by waiting and thinking about it before talking to the parents. Heat of the moment emotions are seldom beneficial in the long run. Be prepared for the parents to possibly be defensive about their kid. The facts as you relayed them here sound pretty convincing but they may accuse you of lying to protect him. You could always threaten to talk to the police to demonstrate your resolve. The kid should be made to work community service at an animal shelter. You where right edge; the parents said that their son would never do something like that and pretty much closed the door on me. My neighbor lent me his trail camera that is used for taking pictures of wildlife via a motion activated camera. I set the thing up and sure a shit the little kid was back on Saturday morning around 1am. Got a nice picture of it. I contacted the parents Sunday morning with the photos and told them I was going to the police if they didn't do something to help their son. I also went out and purchased and installed my own trail cam. We'll see what's going to happen.
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chadnsc
May 14, 2012, 4:30 PM
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carabiner96 wrote: chadnsc wrote: edge wrote: chadnsc wrote: I have no idea but damn it if he was older . . . . well I probably would have lost my temper and be in big trouble. Needless to say I think the kid may have some issues so hopefully this get's figured out and the kid gets help because I don't want to see this happen again. Yeah, you did the right thing by waiting and thinking about it before talking to the parents. Heat of the moment emotions are seldom beneficial in the long run. Be prepared for the parents to possibly be defensive about their kid. The facts as you relayed them here sound pretty convincing but they may accuse you of lying to protect him. You could always threaten to talk to the police to demonstrate your resolve. The kid should be made to work community service at an animal shelter. You where right edge; the parents said that their son would never do something like that and pretty much closed the door on me. My neighbor lent me his trail camera that is used for taking pictures of wildlife via a motion activated camera. I set the thing up and sure a shit the little kid was back on Saturday morning around 1am. Got a nice picture of it. I contacted the parents Sunday morning with the photos and told them I was going to the police if they didn't do something to help their son. I also went out and purchased and installed my own trail cam. We'll see what's going to happen. Post it up! I can't believe the kid came back AfTEr you yelled at him... At this point is say screw the parents and go straight to police, you have a future serial killer on your hands.
Oh I'd love to post the pictures but time on this site has taught me that sometimes it's best to keep those photos to myself and the police.
I'm going to give the parents a chance to actively deal with this as I could see how this may be a shock to them (OMG, not my little boy!). I will however be contacting the police by the end of this week if they have not gotten the kid help.
Oh any my trailcam is staying up and my dog isn't allowed outside off leash even when we are with.
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May 14, 2012, 6:44 PM
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Poor dog, it ain't his fault.
I strongly discourage anyone from posting pictures of other peoples children without the consent of the parents, especially if said pictures were taken with a hidden camera. You almost certainly haven't done anything wrong, and I see you already understand how this might play out negatively, but it's worth saying for those who didn't already understand.
Props for going out of your way to avoid confrontation and giving both the kid and the parents a chance. Unfortunately, the parents probably won't get the message.
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Another thought, if the kid peers into your yard again you might want to consider getting video and audio of you telling him that chocolate is highly poisonous to dogs (no yelling or screaming). That way the parents won't have an easy way out.
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While it's not a given, I would be very concerned about this kid and what may happen in the future, It's fairly common knowledge that chocolate is poisonous to dogs. It's also pretty common knowledge that many sociopath murderers killed animals when they were kids(the murderer, not the animal).
If this were my dog/ situation, I would go to the police and file a report. I would see about what actions I would need to take to do what I could to reduce the chance the kid would come back to my property., I would absolutely see about a restraining order(though against a minor, I don't know if that is even possible).
I would see if I could have the police come with me to talk to the parents to let them know that under no circumstances, yadda, yadda,
And i would be vigiilent in making sure my dog was not left unattended. No letting him out to run a pee in the yard without a leash. No dog foods stored in garage. Secure house when you aren't home.
And last but not least, pray they move away.
I am sorry for you and for your wonderful little Puggle, but this doesn't sound good at all.
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May 14, 2012, 7:28 PM
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From NY Times Magazine this weekend:
Can a 9 year old be a psychopath?
This shit is seriously disturbing.
These kids have a well developed sense of vengeance. Keep an eye on your dog, even if this appears to blow over.
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chadnsc
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suierbbypetzl-
You're 100% right, I will not post pictures of this kid, ever. Thanks for the advice about videotaping me explaining things to the kid, good idea.
I am quite aware that I will probably have to go to the cops about this and I am not taking this lightly. I know that the kid is displaying some rather classic signs of serial killer in the making. We all are all going out of our way to keep everyone calm and hopefully this kid will get help if he needs it.
Just so no one gets the wrong idea I want to point out that the trail-cam isn't hidden. It's a 9" x 12" x 6" green box that is cable locked to a deck post. While their is no sign saying 'camera' on it it is clearly visible from the other side of the alley (which is the kids backyard) When it takes pictures, especially at night a flash goes off. The camera will only take pictures of things 12' away or less which is well within my property.
I have documented the camera's setup via photos.
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You could also contact his school guidance counselor, who should have training in this type of behavior and additional resources to deal with him.
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chadnsc
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edge wrote: You could also contact his school guidance counselor, who should have training in this type of behavior and additional resources to deal with him.
Thanks for the advice, I will do that.
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Not sure if the school guidance counselor will get involved on this one. Outside of school and potential problems for them. Especially if parents go ape about the guidance counselor talking about their child with someone not related. I think the cops are a better way. Even child services if you have proof of the behavior now.
I still think waking his parent in the middle of the night would be good therapy, especially if you had a cop car with flashing light to support you. Sometime, making life inconvenient for the parents is just what's needed.
I agree, kids sounds like a creep to me.
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chadnsc
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I thought I make this topic a little more fluffy and post some pictures of Dexter. . . .
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csproul wrote: How did you not go over to the little fu**er's house right then and there?
Yup... this!
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chadnsc
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ninepointeight wrote: csproul wrote: How did you not go over to the little fu**er's house right then and there? Yup... this!
Cuz I'm an adult and I was sleepy.
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Call the cops NOW. That kid has some issues and is probably doing this to all the other animals in the neighborhood.
You really need to nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand, Id also recommend you call the local animal control and report him.
Ultimately its going to come down to a battle and the first thing the cops are going to say is "why the hell didnt you call us?"
That dog is really cute. looks like a very happy dog.
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chadnsc
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hobgoblin11 wrote: Call the cops NOW. That kid has some issues and is probably doing this to all the other animals in the neighborhood. You really need to nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand, Id also recommend you call the local animal control and report him. Ultimately its going to come down to a battle and the first thing the cops are going to say is "why the hell didnt you call us?" That dog is really cute. looks like a very happy dog.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Called the police. First thing they asked was 'did you already talk to the parents?
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That sucks. Im sorry to hear that. I live in north county San Diego.. they take animal cruelty REAL serious around here.
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chadnsc
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Oh they are taking it VERY seriously. They just wanted to know if I'd talked to the parents yet.
I was told to expect to have officers swing by my place tonight around 6:30pm so they can talk with me and my neighbors separately.
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Fingers crossed for something positive to happen.
Carlos Fuentes just died. Shame, quite a writer.
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chadnsc wrote: ninepointeight wrote: csproul wrote: How did you not go over to the little fu**er's house right then and there? Yup... this! Cuz I'm an adult and I was sleepy.
Yup... that.
Adorable pup, Chad. Really hope this gets sorted out smoothly for you.
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chadnsc wrote: Oh they are taking it VERY seriously. They just wanted to know if I'd talked to the parents yet. I was told to expect to have officers swing by my place tonight around 6:30pm so they can talk with me and my neighbors separately.
Well, what did the cops say when they came by?
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In order to protect the kid's privacy, and my ass all I'm going to say is he's getting in trouble for being mean to my dog and is REQUIRED to talk to a professional about it.
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I'm glad to hear they are taking it seriously
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chadnsc wrote: In order to protect the kid's privacy, and my ass all I'm going to say is he's getting in trouble for being mean to my dog and is REQUIRED to talk to a professional about it.
Aww come on man! It's finals season and I have a ton of procrastinating to do.
Very well, I agree with your call. I would like to know a bit more of the specifics to learn more about the s.o.p. in these cases, but at least you solved your problem and the kid is getting help.
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That is so disturbing... I'm very happy to hear that something is being done about this. You clearly did everything right the first time, I applaud you for that.
And by the way, you have one cute pup right there! You should teach him how to high-five, it's the coolest most adorable thing a dog can do haha.
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Chad, your response to this was so mature that I'm literally surprised to read about it on Rockclimbing.com.
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chadnsc wrote: j_ung wrote: Chad, your response to this was so mature that I'm literally surprised to read about it on Rockclimbing.com. Thanks, uh I think.  Having a dog even for only a month has taught me a lot about being calm and assertive.
What did you have before, a mockingbird?
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edge wrote: chadnsc wrote: j_ung wrote: Chad, your response to this was so mature that I'm literally surprised to read about it on Rockclimbing.com. Thanks, uh I think. Having a dog even for only a month has taught me a lot about being calm and assertive. What did you have before, a mockingbird?
Hehehehehehe!
I just had an ungrateful employer who had no design process and unsatisfying work.
I still have a mildly ungrateful employer and unsatisfying work but now I have a very grateful furball to come home to and cuddle with!
He's a good doggy. Yes he is! (said in dog voice)
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I'm glad everything is working out for you and your dog wasn't hurt. I have two dogs myself and they are like part of my family. I will keep the trail can in mind if anything like this happens to me. You also kept a cooler head than I probably would have, probably would have been pounding on their door the moment I caught him in the act.
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