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ClimbOnSister
Mar 21, 2012, 2:54 PM
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If you like both, you should check out this site:
http://www.climbonsister.com/
Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further?
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ceebo
Mar 21, 2012, 3:32 PM
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ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further?
All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down  .
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shockabuku
Mar 21, 2012, 3:48 PM
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I love both. So I looked at your site. The structure of it is not clear to me, which means I have to work real hard to get anything potentially useful out of it. I don't have time for that.
Disclaimer: I'm a guy. And not a super web savvy guy either.
So I'm sure that you will consider my inability to quickly assess and understand your website as my shortcoming. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but I'm pretty sure that others will feel the same so I'd think about giving it a more obvious structure.
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ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down .
You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose.
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shockabuku wrote: I love both. So I looked at your site. The structure of it is not clear to me, which means I have to work real hard to get anything potentially useful out of it. I don't have time for that. Disclaimer: I'm a guy. And not a super web savvy guy either. So I'm sure that you will consider my inability to quickly assess and understand your website as my shortcoming. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but I'm pretty sure that others will feel the same so I'd think about giving it a more obvious structure.
I completely agree. There needs to be some kind of organization. As it is right now, I wouldn't ever go there again.
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Mar 21, 2012, 8:11 PM
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shockabuku wrote: The structure of it is not clear to me, which means I have to work real hard to get anything potentially useful out of it. I don't have time for that. Disclaimer: I'm a guy. And not a super web savvy guy either. So I'm sure that you will consider my inability to quickly assess and understand your website as my shortcoming. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but I'm pretty sure that others will feel the same so I'd think about giving it a more obvious structure.
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Thanks for the link
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ClimbOnSister
Mar 21, 2012, 8:56 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. I admit, it could be more organized.
The "site" is actually on Blogger and I'm trying to figure out a better solution to organizing posts. For now though, it'll have to do.
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ceebo
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wonderwoman wrote: ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down . You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose.
The Op's website in regards to male/female equality is compareble to ''the cop stopped me coz i is black''. The fact that the car was flashing up stolen, just a detail. I do not see poeple here pointing out ''male'' spacific feets.. just individual feets that happen to be mostly from men. It gets on my fking nerves when women have to point out the fact that they are women.
Btw, why is their a need to have a spacific women's sub forum on RC?. Another pointless and moronic devide.I respect women as equal.. so fking respect me back as it?... you don't need ''special'' treatments.
Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following.
Sub forums to be added:
- For overweight people
- For coulerd peoples
- For disabled people
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granite_grrl
Mar 22, 2012, 4:22 PM
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ceebo wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down . You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose. The Op's website in regards to male/female equality is compareble to ''the cop stopped me coz i is black''. The fact that the car was flashing up stolen, just a detail. I do not see poeple here pointing out ''male'' spacific feets.. just individual feets that happen to be mostly from men. It gets on my fking nerves when women have to point out the fact that they are women. Btw, why is their a need to have a spacific women's sub forum on RC?. Another pointless and moronic devide.I respect women as equal.. so fking respect me back as it?... you don't need ''special'' treatments. Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people
Female climbers are a minority in this sport. Women are built different, we have periods and the ability to have babies, we have different training needs in the sence we have different strengths and weaknessnes because of our bodies.
It can also be hard to find practical gear and clothing that work for rock and ice climbing. They just don't make the same amount of stuff for women as they do for men, or at least the stores don't carry the same selection. And even when there is and it is carried it can be lower functionality for the sake of being "more attractive".
We also look at issues differently. There are too many factors here to pin it down, but in general women tend to be more empathetic and more emotional (or at least show it more) than men.
Editing is weak and Khoi is correct.
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shockabuku
Mar 22, 2012, 4:36 PM
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ceebo wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down . You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose. The Op's website in regards to male/female equality is compareble to ''the cop stopped me coz i is black''. The fact that the car was flashing up stolen, just a detail. I do not see poeple here pointing out ''male'' spacific feets.. just individual feets that happen to be mostly from men. It gets on my fking nerves when women have to point out the fact that they are women. Btw, why is their a need to have a spacific women's sub forum on RC?. Another pointless and moronic devide.I respect women as equal.. so fking respect me back as it?... you don't need ''special'' treatments. Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people
Women are different than men. That's a fact that only an idiot would argue against. The significance and relevance of those differences are debatable, but the difference isn't. So a different forum for them makes sense. Just like sport climbers and boulderers have separate forums.
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ok guys. Although this guy's post was less than appropriate, let's try to keep it civil. Name calling will not change anything and certainly not the thought process of somebody like this. I'd hide his/her posts, but they've been quoted too many times.
If it doesn't remain civil, the whole thread is going to the recycle bin.
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ceebo
Mar 22, 2012, 7:39 PM
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granite_grrl wrote: Female climbers are a minority in this sport. Women are built different, we have periods and the ability to have babies, we have different training needs in the sence we have different strengths and weaknessnes because of our bodies. It can also be hard to find practical gear and clothing that work for rock and ice climbing. They just don't make the same amount of stuff for women as they do for men, or at least the stores don't carry the same selection. And even when there is and it is carried it can be lower functionality for the sake of being "more attractive". We also look at issues differently. There are too many factors here to pin it down, but in general women tend to be more empathetic and more emotional (or at least show it more) than men.
Be reasonable, you act like women landed on earth 2 days ago. Quite aware of the biological differances.
And in terms of man/women climbing.. you are only differant in what you wanne define from. Ultimately we are all the same.. in the sence we are climbing rock?. So you pee sitting and i pee standing, huge deal right?.
I'm not trying to be an ass really. But please share with me what is so hugely differant in the way women train for climbing than what men do?. Women can't use hang boards or campus boards?. Women can't off train with wieghts?. Women can't climb with a weight vest?. The beta of X route is invalid to you becuase it was made by a man?.
You need to remove that devide you have in your head, along with the other 2 girls who decided to choose forum names of such.
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granite_grrl
Mar 23, 2012, 12:06 AM
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ceebo wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Female climbers are a minority in this sport. Women are built different, we have periods and the ability to have babies, we have different training needs in the sence we have different strengths and weaknessnes because of our bodies. It can also be hard to find practical gear and clothing that work for rock and ice climbing. They just don't make the same amount of stuff for women as they do for men, or at least the stores don't carry the same selection. And even when there is and it is carried it can be lower functionality for the sake of being "more attractive". We also look at issues differently. There are too many factors here to pin it down, but in general women tend to be more empathetic and more emotional (or at least show it more) than men. Be reasonable, you act like women landed on earth 2 days ago. Quite aware of the biological differances. And in terms of man/women climbing.. you are only differant in what you wanne define from. Ultimately we are all the same.. in the sence we are climbing rock?. So you pee sitting and i pee standing, huge deal right?. I'm not trying to be an ass really. But please share with me what is so hugely differant in the way women train for climbing than what men do?. Women can't use hang boards or campus boards?. Women can't off train with wieghts?. Women can't climb with a weight vest?. The beta of X route is invalid to you becuase it was made by a man?. You need to remove that devide you have in your head, along with the other 2 girls who decided to choose forum names of such.
Actually I often pee standing up too out in the woods thanks to my Freshette.
I was also told in my recent thread trying to get information about weight lifting that I shouldn't be lifting weights at all because I'll bulk up too much.
I don't know what divide I need to remove from my head, I'm quite comfortable in the world of men (from my work to my play) and I don't feel like I need to pretend I'm not a woman. But it's silly for you to assume that women don't like their own little space to talk with other people who understand them much better than someone like you does.
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granite_grrl wrote: Coloured - I think that any coloured people that are involved in climbing in North America have had similar upbringings as white poeple in North America. What kind of "coloured" issues do they need to discuss.
You should have quit before you blundered down to his level.
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ceebo wrote: ... Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people
Then surely the place should also have a sub-forum for users whose posts are consistently rated as one-star wonders.
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there is a reason i prefer climbing with women. ego. it seems men these days have a pretty hard time putting that shit away and realizing that we're just talking about climbing rocks. it's fun. it shouldn't be anything else. thanks for your civility ladies.
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ceebo
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granite_grrl wrote: ceebo wrote: granite_grrl wrote: Female climbers are a minority in this sport. Women are built different, we have periods and the ability to have babies, we have different training needs in the sence we have different strengths and weaknessnes because of our bodies. It can also be hard to find practical gear and clothing that work for rock and ice climbing. They just don't make the same amount of stuff for women as they do for men, or at least the stores don't carry the same selection. And even when there is and it is carried it can be lower functionality for the sake of being "more attractive". We also look at issues differently. There are too many factors here to pin it down, but in general women tend to be more empathetic and more emotional (or at least show it more) than men. Be reasonable, you act like women landed on earth 2 days ago. Quite aware of the biological differances. And in terms of man/women climbing.. you are only differant in what you wanne define from. Ultimately we are all the same.. in the sence we are climbing rock?. So you pee sitting and i pee standing, huge deal right?. I'm not trying to be an ass really. But please share with me what is so hugely differant in the way women train for climbing than what men do?. Women can't use hang boards or campus boards?. Women can't off train with wieghts?. Women can't climb with a weight vest?. The beta of X route is invalid to you becuase it was made by a man?. You need to remove that devide you have in your head, along with the other 2 girls who decided to choose forum names of such. Actually I often pee standing up too out in the woods thanks to my Freshette. I was also told in my recent thread trying to get information about weight lifting that I shouldn't be lifting weights at all because I'll bulk up too much. I don't know what divide I need to remove from my head, I'm quite comfortable in the world of men (from my work to my play) and I don't feel like I need to pretend I'm not a woman. But it's silly for you to assume that women don't like their own little space to talk with other people who understand them much better than someone like you does.
I was out walking not so long ago and a girl in the group had to go pee, she made no deal about it. ''I have to go''.. we walked on slowly.. a min later she was back with us, ok great, full steam ahead. The fact that she done it crouched or standing is irelivent, no normal person actually cares either way. She got on with it.
Are you saying that only girls will bulk up if lifting to much?.
Yes ofc its been a mans world for a long time but things have changed and are still changing. The point im getting at is that descrimination works both ways. If you constantly need to point out the fact you are differant.. even though those differances by many have been accepted and brushed aside.. then thats upto you.
And i still think that having a women only forum that is basically saying ''men stay out'' is utter bull shit. Any issues women have should be openly discussed so that more poeple have a chance to understand and accept them.
p.s happygrrl, you make no5.
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ceebo wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down . You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose. The Op's website in regards to male/female equality is compareble to ''the cop stopped me coz i is black''. The fact that the car was flashing up stolen, just a detail. I do not see poeple here pointing out ''male'' spacific feets.. just individual feets that happen to be mostly from men. It gets on my fking nerves when women have to point out the fact that they are women. Btw, why is their a need to have a spacific women's sub forum on RC?. Another pointless and moronic devide.I respect women as equal.. so fking respect me back as it?... you don't need ''special'' treatments. Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people
We should have a special Ceebo forum too, and keep your incoherent spew out of all other parts of the site.
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tscampbell wrote: .....ego.....we're just talking about climbing rocks. it's fun. it shouldn't be anything else.....
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camhead wrote: ceebo wrote: wonderwoman wrote: ceebo wrote: ClimbOnSister wrote: If you like both, you should check out this site: http://www.climbonsister.com/ Training tips, humorous articles, women crushing rocks. Why would you look any further? All that time trying to gain equality... and look what you gone and done. We are not the ones keeping you down . You can't keep us down, and I can't understand your post. We're even, I suppose. The Op's website in regards to male/female equality is compareble to ''the cop stopped me coz i is black''. The fact that the car was flashing up stolen, just a detail. I do not see poeple here pointing out ''male'' spacific feets.. just individual feets that happen to be mostly from men. It gets on my fking nerves when women have to point out the fact that they are women. Btw, why is their a need to have a spacific women's sub forum on RC?. Another pointless and moronic devide.I respect women as equal.. so fking respect me back as it?... you don't need ''special'' treatments. Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people We should have a special Ceebo forum too, and keep your incoherent spew out of all other parts of the site.
I've been thinking this for some time. This thread and the overweight climbing thread sure make me feel like less of an asshole.
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ceebo
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happiegrrrl wrote: ceebo wrote: ... Lets not stop their though. I suggest the following. Sub forums to be added: - For overweight people - For coulerd peoples - For disabled people Then surely the place should also have a sub-forum for users whose posts are consistently rated as one-star wonders.
No day withought night. A person like you may understand.
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ceebo wrote: And i still think that having a women only forum that is basically saying ''men stay out'' is utter bull shit. Any issues women have should be openly discussed so that more poeple have a chance to understand and accept them. p.s happygrrl, you make no5.
Your insight("men stay out") is incorrect. The Ladies Room is not a women-only section. It is simply a place where women-specific issues may be posted in a place that has a higher degree of moderation than the General section. The reason is, that in less-moderated sections, woman-specific threads have been shown to be degraded by remarks made by some users.
In General, a woman posting about issues like "Why are the guys hitting on me? I just want to climb?" is going to get at least ONE "useless without pics" type response, and likely will be a lot worse.
In the Ladies Room, the chances of that occurring are less, due to the moderation, and when/if it does, the remark will be removed, which helps the thread stay on topic.
Men are welcome in the Ladies Room, and often participate.
On the other hand, I would really like to see a Men's Room section. I wish RC.com would add it. Male-bashing or "useless without pics" type posts by women would not be tolerated; it would be interesting to watch the section evolve.
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