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pylonhead
Mar 10, 2010, 11:53 PM
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jt512 wrote: greatview wrote: according to petzl? i have never heard or seen that from petzl anywhere ... are those rumours or real facts? Try reading the manual. Jay
I had never heard this before, but it looks like he's right. Here is a quote from the manual:
http://gearguide.co.uk/media/p/39.aspx
In reply to: Instructions for use This product is a belay device for the leader or second on a rope. It has been developed for indoor wall climbing or for climbing on well-protected sport routes where anchors meet the UIAA standard. It should not be used for mountaineering or adventure climbing |
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unrooted
Mar 11, 2010, 4:24 AM
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Jay is always right. He's like that smart kid in class that knows all the answers, but is a dick about it.
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gmggg
Mar 11, 2010, 2:45 PM
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sspssp wrote: gmggg wrote: tedman wrote: check out the Trango Cinch. 20-30$ cheaper, lighter, smaller, feeds better. The only thing it dosnt do better than a gri-gri is lower as smoothly. I use mine all the time for multipitch, works great. How does that help? The cinch, while it is a great device, will have all of the same limitations as the gri gri and it sounds like the OP already has a gri gri... Not trashing the cinch, just want to make sure that it is understood that it is an equal option not necessarily a better option. No, the cinch does not all have all the same limitations. It is lighter, smaller, feeds better. Now, is it worth buying if you already have a grigri, maybe not if you are poor (but I might still argue the point  ) And kidding aside, lighter is a serious issue for multi-pitch. Furthermore, for somebody reading this thread who doesn't already own a grigri...
Meh. All of that is disputable except for the weight. That is a very good point. 50g difference or so; I believe? But like I said I'm not knocking the cinch, I have one and enjoy it. But why not list all of the auto-locking devices that would work in this situation? The zap-o-mat is pretty comparable to the cinch in weight, but it is smaller, and perhaps, better for gear...
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olderic
Mar 11, 2010, 2:51 PM
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unrooted wrote: Jay is always right. He's like that smart kid in class that thinks he knows all the answers, but is a dick about it.
Fixed that for you
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tedman
Mar 11, 2010, 5:05 PM
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I guess I was under the impression that the OP was looking to buy a grigri rather than already having one. Re-reading his post, it could go either way. was throwing out what in my opinion is a better alternative. but yes, if you already have a grigri, no reason to buy a cinch.
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jrathfon
Mar 11, 2010, 5:50 PM
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i just checked the manual, i thought it used to show a pic clipped to an anchor belaying a second... maybe i'm just thinking of atc guide and reverso manuals.
here's a good video showing belaying from the anchor and transfering belay techniques with the reverso, very similar techniques can be used with the gri-gri:
http://www.dailymotion.com/...e-belay-rappel_sport
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