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i_h8_choss


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did you write all of that just so you could say "hell V5 is a good day" ?Tongue?


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wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!


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chossmonkey wrote:
wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!

I totally second that motion to banz him.

P.S. I think he should apologize to the lady.


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Banz Burns? Now I've heard everything.


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petsfed wrote:
Just to be clear, there is no "climbing community" any more than there is a "camry owning community".

Yes, we all climb. But that's pretty much all we're guaranteed to have in common.

The days where the total number of climbers in the country numbered in the 1-2 thousand are long since dead. There are simply too many of us, and we've become highly factionalized as a result.

There will be conflicts between climbers when they factionalize like that. And not just between gym climbers and "outdoor" climbers. Not just between trad climbers and sport climbers. But simply between people.

Please realize that climbing doesn't attract exclusively the conflict free personalities. The act of climbing doesn't make you a good person. An asshole who starts climbing will still be an asshole, no matter how much he "gives back to the community" in the form of route development or volunteer time. I've seen it way too often. Some people really are just jerks.

Remember that real respect, not just basic human decency, is earned, not given. So if you find the Tuscon gym climbers to be standoffish, do something to earn their respect. Be friendly with them. Don't just walk in expecting that they'll treat you as an equal. Nobody owes you that right out of the gate.

To echo this and go a bit further, there is no community of people where this doesn't exist. Even in highly self selecting communities based on shared intrinsic values share this conflict (think monasteries).

The sooner you enjoy it, in a detached way, the happier your life will be.


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Banz Burns?

I find it itches much more than it burns. No wait, it's not banzing that itches; it's crabs. Sometimes I get those confused.

Oh, I see, Gmburns... in that case, please disregard.


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kriso9tails wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Some climbers are cool and some are not and that is just the way I like it. It makes the nights around the camp fire much more fun.

While it doesn't happen so often, I agree with you totally here.

On a separate note, I'd like to go on record saying that I hate each and every last one of you. For this I blame my mother for not hugging me enough as a child... and that guy that raped my puppy when I was eight..

Right in front of your very eyes, no doubt.

Curt


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curt wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Some climbers are cool and some are not and that is just the way I like it. It makes the nights around the camp fire much more fun.

While it doesn't happen so often, I agree with you totally here.

On a separate note, I'd like to go on record saying that I hate each and every last one of you. For this I blame my mother for not hugging me enough as a child... and that guy that raped my puppy when I was eight..

Right in front of your very eyes, no doubt.

Curt

Yes, exactly. How did you know?

Incidentally, it was also the exact in my life that I became a pathological liar.... honest to god, I swear.


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kriso9tails wrote:
curt wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Some climbers are cool and some are not and that is just the way I like it. It makes the nights around the camp fire much more fun.

While it doesn't happen so often, I agree with you totally here.

On a separate note, I'd like to go on record saying that I hate each and every last one of you. For this I blame my mother for not hugging me enough as a child... and that guy that raped my puppy when I was eight..

Right in front of your very eyes, no doubt.

Curt

Yes, exactly. How did you know?

Incidentally, it was also the exact in my life that I became a pathological liar.... honest to god, I swear.

Yea , a , Sorry about that. BlushI was young and that puppy was asking for it!


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Also, another example of this stigma are many of the posts on rc.com. I love rc.com and like to be a part of it, but it feels so superficial when it creates barriers and people forget that they can respecfully disagree on an issue, and have an open mind.

Very well said to all you said especially that part above!

Though I have to say never had a problem with anyone it any climbing gym I've gone to, always been positive, maybe it's just the gym where YOU climb.


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any large group of people can represent a cross section of society as a whole, and therfore you'll get a mix of just what the real world is- nice people, mean people, stupid people,etc. It's easy to romanticize a group of people you have never met if they share a common passion with you.


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I think it has to do with egos, and what people have to tell themselves(others) to keep the beast fed. I used to feed the monster alot, but then I got tired of it, and I killed the beast. Or I'm just telling my ego that so that I can feel smug and "above the problem" So who knows.

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i_h8_choss wrote:
did you write all of that just so you could say "hell V5 is a good day" ?Tongue?

i see your point. my apologies for doing what could be misinterpreted as spraying. my intention was quite the reverse, as it's my understanding that around 5 or so is average for someone who likes bouldering. that's max for me. again my intention was not to claim that as being good but to say that average for most boulderers is about my max, and they're still cheering me on for what are warmup routes for them.


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It's a buzzkill and can get discouraging i think i can understand that. Focus on climbing and not pay attention none of that crap matters when you're reaching for the crux and you start to get disco leg and you can't remember the the crucial beta you figured out right before that last whipper, crap then you get scared of losing it again and then...well you get the point. the ground level politics it pretty unimportant, if you truely think about it, we just have to fight instinct sometimes and be less social creatures


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chossmonkey wrote:
wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!

Is banzing kind of like kicking the crap out of him. If so, I like that idea!

Although, I know to what burnsey is referring to, the implications of what he said for people not in the know was in VERY bad taste. BOOOOOO! HISSSS!!! BANZZZZ!!!!
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blueeyedclimber wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!

Is banzing kind of like kicking the crap out of him. If so, I like that idea!

Although, I know to what burnsey is referring to, the implications of what he said for people not in the know was in VERY bad taste. BOOOOOO! HISSSS!!! BANZZZZ!!!!
Unsure

Finally, someone providing context!


chossmonkey


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blueeyedclimber wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!

Is banzing kind of like kicking the crap out of him. If so, I like that idea!

Although, I know to what burnsey is referring to, the implications of what he said for people not in the know was in VERY bad taste. BOOOOOO! HISSSS!!! BANZZZZ!!!!
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Banzing is as banzing does.


A banz is a banz plain and simple.


Granted, there are several differnt types of banzez.


I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.


rockram


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Well, good. I heard Burns is getting banzedPirate. If all I accomplished with my post was the weeding out of someone who deserved to be banzed, at least he won't harrass anyone again.

Madboooooooo to harrasment.


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chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


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chossmonkey wrote:
blueeyedclimber wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
wonderwoman wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
rockram wrote:
Thank you wonder woman. I like your style! You must be one of those positive people that everyone in general loves to be around...

Yeah, especially when she bends over. Wink

oh, dear....
Banz him!


Banz him now!!!!!

That's herassment if I have ever seen it.

j_ung PMed!!!!!

Is banzing kind of like kicking the crap out of him. If so, I like that idea!

Although, I know to what burnsey is referring to, the implications of what he said for people not in the know was in VERY bad taste. BOOOOOO! HISSSS!!! BANZZZZ!!!!
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Banzing is as banzing does.


A banz is a banz plain and simple.


Granted, there are several differnt types of banzez.


I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

pfffttt...

If I knew a quarter of the shit he knows I'd be happy.


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kriso9tails wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


Blasphemy!!!


So now the mere mention of PTPP is pedophilia?


j_ung PMed!!!!!


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chossmonkey wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


Blasphemy!!!


So now the mere mention of PTPP is pedophilia?


j_ung PMed!!!!!

Blast-phony is taking our overlord's PM in vain.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


Blasphemy!!!


So now the mere mention of PTPP is pedophilia?


j_ung PMed!!!!!

Blast-phony is taking our overlord's PM in vain.
You'd be surprised how many times I actually do PM him.


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chossmonkey wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


Blasphemy!!!


So now the mere mention of PTPP is pedophilia?


j_ung PMed!!!!!

Blast-phony is taking our overlord's PM in vain.
You'd be surprised how many times I actually do PM him.

Surprised?? Ok so give me a number and surprise me.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
kriso9tails wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I think in this case a permabanz is in order. Rumor on the street is that Gmburns is really PTPP.

I believe you need to read the rulez. You seem to have committed a banz-worthy-able offense.


Blasphemy!!!


So now the mere mention of PTPP is pedophilia?


j_ung PMed!!!!!

Blast-phony is taking our overlord's PM in vain.
You'd be surprised how many times I actually do PM him.

Surprised?? Ok so give me a number and surprise me.

I'm guessing four times a day?

#1 Good morning, sunshine!

#2 Boy, I'm hungry. What are you having for lunch?

#3 Watcha doin'?Smile

#4 Nightie night, Jungie-poo. *yawn*

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