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sungam


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jmvc wrote:
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I think the most common thing I see is non doublebackers and peole when making an anchor only vlipping a biner on tope of the rope instead of tieng a bight or through the webbing so that if one bolt or pro fails the carabiner flies of the side resulting in certain death. I've rung out a few people for that one

:?: Am I the only one that can't make sense of this?

No
I think they are referring to the American death triangle, and not tying clove hitches or similar to stop shock loading in the case of one anchor failing.


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jmvc wrote:
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at the end of a long day and the beginning of a long rappel, tie a proper stopper knot.

And if you don't like stopper knots?
I think she means at the end of the ropes.


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sungam wrote:
jmvc wrote:
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at the end of a long day and the beginning of a long rappel, tie a proper stopper knot.

And if you don't like stopper knots?
I think she means at the end of the ropes.

Yeah, that's what I thought she meant. I don't like them.


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jmvc wrote:
sungam wrote:
jmvc wrote:
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at the end of a long day and the beginning of a long rappel, tie a proper stopper knot.

And if you don't like stopper knots?
I think she means at the end of the ropes.

Yeah, that's what I thought she meant. I don't like them.
Then you're stupid.
Why don't you like them?


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i think i actually was looking something up about trad climbing, ya know the usual screwing around on the internet, right, and for some reason this was one of the top forums that came up. So i took a look. And yes, i did actually read through ALL of the posts. lol! There was stuff I read that I never even thought of when i started climbing. I've never been the type to try stuff because it seems safe and should be safe. I don't do things climbing that I haven't been instructed on how to do, and had my work checked out. It seems that some noobs don't think like i do.


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biggest n00b mistake: signing up for rc.com and then posting a question.


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i_h8_choss wrote:
biggest n00b mistake: signing up for rc.com and then posting a question.
No, that would be fine.
Now listening to the answers... Tongue
No, there's good advice in this thread.
The site has really shaped up in this last year, I think.


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This just happened to me on the weekend. Somehow I ended up at a scout camp with two guys I've never met before.

We were just talking about ourselves and one of these guys asked me where I learned to tie knots. I said I climbed and went canyoning.

This guy then dissapears and comes back in a little while, he puts something on the table in front of me. I look down and its an old Chounard pulley.

He then tells me how he used to belay with it.

I said What? How the f... do you belay with a pulley?

He said he would put the pulley between the biner and a stitch plate. He went on to explain how he didn't like friction on the rope when he belayed.


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AHAHAHA!
Doesn't like the friction! haha!
-.-


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once a couple years ago @ our local crag, we were walking down the cliff face at the end of a day, looking for that one last route to wrap things up, and came upon 3 guys on a 5.5 crack using a 2 ton hand winch attached to a large mooring (the crag is right along a waterway) at the cliff top for an anchor. Best of all, the rope was just looped through the hook of the winch, nothing keeping it there besides dumbluck and gravity.


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Rofl, they just used a bit off a boat?
lol.


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Concentrating on falling instead of climbing.


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2-3 years ago we were coming down from a local climb and on the approach wall, bout 50' tall, two guys were rap'n down on 1"tubular webbing


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AZBones wrote:
2-3 years ago we were coming down from a local climb and on the approach wall, bout 50' tall, two guys were rap'n down on 1"tubular webbing
did you tell them they were fucktards for doing that?


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We caught them before they started down so we set our ropes and let them rap our lines


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AZBones wrote:
We caught them before they started down so we set our ropes and let them rap our lines
Good save.
Didn't the guys at the gearshop enquire when the bought X0m of webbing from the store?


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Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.


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Maddhatter wrote:
Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.
I don't use cordalette and my anchors are eq'ed.


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sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.
I don't use cordalette and my anchors are eq'ed.

Yea there are a few ways to EQ gear I just like the cord-o-let the best myself.


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Maddhatter wrote:
sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.
I don't use cordalette and my anchors are eq'ed.

Yea there are a few ways to EQ gear I just like the cord-o-let the best myself.
Cord-o-death? oh noes! Tongue


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sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.
I don't use cordalette and my anchors are eq'ed.

Yea there are a few ways to EQ gear I just like the cord-o-let the best myself.
Cord-o-death? oh noes! Tongue

WTF is that about? lol A cord-o-let is one of the safest ways to EQ an anchor. Why in the world would you say it's not?


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Didn't have time to read everyone's response, but I definitely vote for the following n00b mistake because it's one I made as a n00b.

Not listening to the advice of others or not accepting advice from others even when other climbers were being really nice about how they give that advice.
GT


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Maddhatter wrote:
sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
sungam wrote:
Maddhatter wrote:
Not learning how to use a cord-o-let and useing un EQ'ed anchors.
I don't use cordalette and my anchors are eq'ed.

Yea there are a few ways to EQ gear I just like the cord-o-let the best myself.
Cord-o-death? oh noes! Tongue

WTF is that about? lol A cord-o-let is one of the safest ways to EQ an anchor. Why in the world would you say it's not?
Just stirring the pot.


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nobody ever asks me about buying 100+ feet of 1 inch tubular for slacklining, so I never tell them. For all they know I'm off to rap down a cliff.


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I think my most common mistake has been jumping on something near or at my limit without warming up. I haven't ever climbed anything over 6 pitches and haven't climbed much trad at all so the mistakes I could have made were all pretty insignificant.

I think the most common "mistake" I see n00bs making is always in the way they are belaying. From clipping in wrong to letting go of the rope, there are so many different mistakes I've seen n00bs make, but it always has something to do with belaying.

Also, when I see people learning to lead sport, I notice that they do dumb things at the anchor like untying their knot without running the rope through the anchor or at least securing it to themselves in some way.

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