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camhead
May 7, 2003, 2:31 AM
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word.
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fieldmouse
May 7, 2003, 2:49 AM
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well said bob...this is the same reason nobody goes to the MEC.
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lox
May 7, 2003, 3:33 AM
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It's also the same reason noone comes and visits central texas... lol.
It's too hot and burly for the average climber.
Just look at poor fieldmouse, SHUT DOWN AND BUTTHURT IN 15 MINUTES after hitting EVERY AREA ?!?!
lol.
Onion Creek alone is YEARS worth of classic, steep gymnastic boldering.
Don't EVEN hate on Central Texas.
Mike Paul might have climbed hard 20 years ago, and all the cali chuffers might be avoiding Woodsom because they are weakmos... but don't think that ethic extends to those of us in Texas.
Lets not forget, every time this pissing contest is opened... Mike Paul comes across on the internet as fucking RETARD.
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lox
May 7, 2003, 3:36 AM
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In reply to: Just because people might be my friends is actually a good thing Lox! It doesn't look like you're getting a lot of support here Dude! I was glad to have climbed when there wasn't a lot of Joke Retards like you lurking around! And yes quote me anytime Jerkoff, Your Spraying, my Spraying, what's the dif? You must just have a small penis and drive a big truck, riflerack and all that! Wanker!
OH MY GOD.
HE CLIMBED HARD WHEN I WAS IN DIAPERS.
HE AUTOMATICALLY DESERVES ME RESPECT.
lol.
Signed,
The Joke Retard.
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lox
May 7, 2003, 3:37 AM
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Actually, I drive a Camry.
lol.
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curt
May 7, 2003, 3:49 AM
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Lox,
Somewhere a couple of pages back I promised not to respond negatively to your BS in this thread. So, I will keep things civil. Your statement:
In reply to: Mike Paul might have climbed hard 20 years ago, and all the cali chuffers might be avoiding Woodsom because they are weakmos... but don't think that ethic extends to those of us in Texas.
Here is the main point. As to MP being a jerk on the internet--as you claim, a cursory glance back through this thread will reveal that he only became inflamatory after your totally unwarranted attacks.
Curt
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pbjosh
May 7, 2003, 4:04 AM
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I can fully attest to Woodson's burliness. And luckily things are only getting downrated, heh heh heh. Recently I've heard people call Uncertainty Principle and Seminar Wall 5.11b. Yeah, Seminar Wall at 11b, tell that to the couple of 5'3" women I've seen do it.
Hear My Train Acomin' at is fscking sick at 5.11c. Steep (10-20 degrees overhanging start move) tips jams, bad feet, and most people use a mono jam to start it. If that's not enough for you Mother Superior is a full body workout. Then you can get on some really burly stuff like Eppi's OW, Hellraiser, Undertow, Vice Principal's Office and more... :)
Although for a burly crack boulder problem I still think Big Bob's Big Wedge takes the cake. I think calling it V5 might be fair. The topout probably is 5.12 OW. Maybe it's only 11+ but I sure as sh!t can't tell the difference. Gross. I don't think any of the moves on Crack House were as hard as the topout of Big Bob's...
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bvb
May 7, 2003, 5:09 AM
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Lox, MP hasn't logged on in weeks, he don't even know you, and you are so far off his radar screen you may as well be on the moon. So quit draggin' Vawto into this as a red herring. Defend yourself, big guy! Quit trying to change the subject! Bouldering.com represent! If you're gonna play the guttersnipe, then by God do Joe Strummer's memory proud and DO NOT back down.
Yeah pbjosh, big bob's big wedge is shorter than crackhouse, which is all about enduro. But at V5 b.b.b.w. has gotta be the BUUUUUURliest V5 roof crack in Cali...I was never much into projecting stuff way back then -- if I couldn't get 'em in a few quick tries I was on the the next prob...and the Wedgie gave me a spankin' I'll never forget. Only tried it four or five times and got stymied every time trying to invert at the lip. Too scared to really go for it. Spotters and a pad woulda been nice.
Lox: Batter Up!
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lox
May 7, 2003, 7:45 AM
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In reply to: Defend yourself, big guy!
Against what ?
All I said was that MP acts like a choad on the internet. This is how he COMES ACROSS.
Certainly, I come across the same way, but that is cold and calculated.
So what do I have to defend myself against ?
HOW HARD I CLIMB ?!?! lol.
I fucking climb. I climb a lot. And pretty hard too... I don't really feel the need to SPRAY to defend myself, as MP does.
And the fact that he doesn't have a broadband pipeline into his home further solidifies my assertion that he is not internet saavy, no matter what first ascents he put up.
I really don't feel the need to post my personal achievements in a bragging manner to an internet messageboard... which is precisely the thing that I made fun of MP about in the first place.. which put a wad of panty into the 35-and-over club's collective ass...
Unwarranted attacks ?!?!
Go back to MP's first post.
N00b shit.
lol.
You guys are just trying to goad me into posting a ticklist so you can berte it because the problems are too new to have a YDS rating.
Seriously, at this point, the only thing that would leave me with one shred of respect ofr your whole fucking ancient-ass strokefest scene would be the revelation and PROOF that MP was the First ascentionist of the Power of Silence at Hueco.
Other than that, he's a fucking choad who is a GOD to a bunch of 35 + year olds on the internet who have nothing better ot do than judge people's climbing ability without having climbed with them.
So pony up, y'all... WHAT HAS HE SENT AT HUECO ?!?!?
Or take your bullshit to the trad forum, where it belongs, FATASSES.
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roclimb
May 7, 2003, 4:01 PM
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the milkstones in Pennsylvania have the bachar cracker of PA.
~RH
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mreardon
May 7, 2003, 4:03 PM
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Fishboy claims his arguments online are cold and calculated? This coming from the boy who still hasn't proven himself to climb anything harder than a VB four feet off the ground on a toprrope by the one person here he did visit?
Oh wait, that's right. There was one other picture where he looks like he might be one foot off the ground and stepped up to the jug somewhere supposedly undisclosed in Texas. Or is he still in New York working phones as a telemarketer (lot's of limestone climbing in Central Park I hear)?
In any case, fishboy is nothing more than a lying little boy who can't remove himself from his trailer-park momma's teat long enough to go outside. Therefore he sprays on every bb he can find with his pants off thinking he's such a man while looking at his little willy bobbling around. Step up punk or STFU. You ain't nothin' but a whiny little spraylord who's too cowardly to back his own posts. Fishboy = Troll and not even worth any more responses.
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curt
May 7, 2003, 4:25 PM
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Yes Lox, it was an unwarranted attack on your part. You say to look at MP's first post--OK let's do that.
In reply to: Yeah, Woodson is Super Cool! But after I did the FA of "Pigpen" in Josh I thought that was it, then I did the 2nd (right after Mike Lechlinski did the FA) of "Big Bob's Big Wedge" and so on. I also really dug "Bachar Cracker" in the Valley, There was an Funky ol' shot of me on that one in Rolling Stone Mag. in '82 or so. Overall though it would have to be Woodson.
I recall you starting a thread about doing the "Gill Egg" problem in the Gunks--and how great it was. Nobody flamed you in that thread for spraying. I fail to see the difference between your "Gill Egg" thread and MP's supposed bragging about himself. A little self consistency on your part would be nice.
Curt
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atg200
May 7, 2003, 4:54 PM
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i really enjoyed mike paul's post that lox thought was spraying. i suppose one man's spraying is another's history. take it easy on lox though - there is no history on the choss in central texas, so he is trying to create his own legend now using the net. very, very progressive stuff.
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mreardon
May 7, 2003, 5:32 PM
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Curt,
You're a good man for trying to work with fishboy, but he's only going to continue bashing for no reason other than to create an argument. The internet and this BB are the only things he has going in his life. I've seen trolls like him before and he's merely a reactionary moron who yells in the hopes that he's heard. It doesn't matter what the topic or argument is, he just has to get a response. Just look at his post count v. how many posts did not involve being a troll. In all the time he's been here (including all the other names he's used/using) I've only seen a couple threads that he actually contributed to. The rest of the time is merely masturbation of the keyboard.
Save your fingers for cranking at Suicide and Yose!
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lox
May 7, 2003, 8:16 PM
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In regards to my spray versus MP's history... read the post:
I DID THIS. I GOT TEH SECOND ASCENT. I WAS IN A MAGAZINE !!!!111
Not just, I remember doing these three hella classic cracks back in the seventies... THAT would be humble. You think it's history ?!?! No. What Jgill writes up is history. MP's tone and further posts distinguish him as a technonaive lout.
My post wasn't spray. The Gill Egg is v3 for chrissakes. However, it was a milestone in it's day and remains one HELL of a classic dyno. When I hit the top from the crimps, I thought of how good it would feel to be the first person to ever have done that. So I wrote Jgill a note of appreciation for his vision... not a vehicle for self AGGRANDIZEMENT.
In regards to the misguided assumptions concerning my climbing ability and what I have going on in my life:
lol.
The whole reason that one might be able to draw the conclusion that I don't climb hard things is because I don't spray about them.
If you feel justified in thinking this, it is quite allright by me.
The fact of the matter is I have climbed difficult classic bolder problems in many different states. Hell... in the last 12 months I have been to The Ice Pond, Governors Stables, Mount Gretna, Little Cottonwood Canyon, Joe's Valley, Horespens 40, HUECO and of course... all across Central Texas.
At this exact moment, I am about to head to pace bend and start getting the headwall of the Maugmacita wall dialed. In midJuly, when the lake has dropped 20 feet, exposing the 45 degree climbing below the headwall, the moves on the headwall will seem so much easier if dialed in.
And then tonight, nitegolf.
And a sidenote to atg200 regarding the history (or lack thereof) of Central Texas "choss." Ever use the term "beta" ? There was this guy named Jack Mileski... every area has history, you twat. Duh. Ever heard of the Potrero Chico ?!? Where do you think the guys who developed that place lived when they weren't in mexico ?!? Oh, Central Texas has left teh largest mark on North American sportclimbing... lol.
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camhead
May 7, 2003, 8:31 PM
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I've got to back Lox up on the history bit.
CenTex has a long history of active and fricking hard climbing. Not just bouldering; the previously mentioned long routes in Potrero, as well as some visionary and just plain scary trad at local Enchanted Rock and the Wichitas about 6 hours to the north of Austin. If you want to know what happens when you give a hella strong and ballsy boulderer some trad gear, go check out some of the 5.12 granite testpieces at Erock. Oh, and the Wichitas... ever hear of Duane Raleigh? To quote the guy on his home turf in Oklahoma, "there are three pitch face routes that Peter Croft believes are unbelievable." (r&i 121, p48). believe it.
bottom line, for all the shit I talk on the state, there is some good steep climbing, and it will make you fricking strong.
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atg200
May 7, 2003, 8:35 PM
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yeehaw, the troll worked! i even caught camhead - lox is too easy to be proud of.
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camhead
May 7, 2003, 8:40 PM
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dammit andrew. just for that, I'm going to purposefully clusterfuck my rope management when we climb in colorado.
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lox
May 7, 2003, 8:49 PM
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lol.
I did create a legend online.
His name is Doosh...
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curt
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Yes, there is certainly nothing in Colorado, California or the Gunks that can measure up to the quality climbing to be found in central Texas.
Curt
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lox
May 7, 2003, 9:05 PM
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Have you ever been here ?
The boldering is quite a bit steeper and mre dynamic than the places you mentioned.
Throw in Hueco Tanks and El Potrero Chico and I am just a 10 hour drive from several lifetimes worth of world class climbing.
Seriously. Don't talk shit about Central Texas.
You can get off a plane and have your ass handed to you at McKinney Falls less than an hour later.
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lox
May 7, 2003, 9:07 PM
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OH CRAP.
I forgot to add The GUnks to the list of places I have been this year....
D'oh.
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atg200
May 7, 2003, 9:11 PM
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nah, we believe you that central texas climbing is ok, after you scrub off the choss and get rid of the vegetation with a flamethrower. its just unfortunate that the central texas climbing is in central texas, and therefore near texans.
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Easy guys...
To quote Alex Lowe - "The best climber is the one that's having the most fun."
Abide by that. If someone wants to tell you the routes they've done, fine. If they don't, that's fine too. It's not like anyone is telling you how to climb.
Go get on the rock and don't worry about it...
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Just curious.
In reply to: The boldering is quite a bit steeper and mre dynamic than the places you mentioned.
How are the full body length aerials on Speed-of-Light and Saturday Night Live (in California) and also on Fatted Calf (in Colorado) not so dynamic?
Curt
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