I see it.; And I agree with you.

I'm diagnosed bi-polar.

If you want safety you have to sacrifice.. quite simple. Clearly you don't want that.. so i guess you are the type of person who does not like cctv cam's either?. OMG! the intrusion.. how can you expect to live.. when you can not buy a bottle of pop at the shop with ought being watched by a street cam. The next day a guy rolls in with a shotgun and robs the place killing the only witness in the process. 2 weeks later he is caught as a direct result of cctv footedge. Put in jail.. will not kill another person (who we give a shit about anyway).

Again, people like you are purely selfish or lack understanding. You're an idiot.

Is this to me?

I know I'm a bit late in saying this but please ignore this individual. They have just started posting here in the last 2 weeks and have not said a word that makes sense in that time. It is a troll account of some kind and should be ignored banned.

yeah well: My surname means Rock in Russian, so I think I get it.

Sorry for being so disrespectful to you, I obviously look up to you as an individual. And I climb there in Columbia when I can. So you must forgive the frustration in my voice. To me: It could be a job opportunity. I hope you understand I'm just trying to help.

Despite his having admitted to it, the entire situation could begin to appear as if they only did these things in their minds. obviously, there needs to be some burden of proof, a confession and a statement from a 14 year old are two very important pieces of information. But how will anything be found if no one chases it out?

And excuse me ma'am: I'm only tell you who I am, and why you wanted me here in the first place. I'm trying to get back to Russia but the money from disability just doesn't pile up quick enough. Fortunately, I have a ticket to work andI'm diagnosed bi-polar. Go figure, being named after a volcano and becoming diagnosed with bi-polar.

Thankyou for you help.

OMG! Ceebo the perps are everywhere! track them! Good thing they caught this guy on camera:

http://www.urbanclimbermag.com/...tanks_tx/index4.html

Look lady. I had sex for the first time when I was 13. It wasn't pleasant and it wasn't nice to talk about. But I have a younger brother, so I kept thing in line until I was 15 and finally told. Sex is a normal part of human development. As masters of this world, it is important you realize the abilities this child could develop. If she made it up, she goes on stalker list. If he's backing her story out of confusion or deep phiolosphical meditation, then they both go on the stalker list.

But keep in mind: things happen for a reason. again I remind you, Saints Walk the earth, in this instance. The child will be heavily monitored until the whole truth and nothing but the truth comes to light.

keep your mind current about it all.

Not appropriate, superchuffer and a pretty adolescent contribution to a serious subject. Also not amusing if that was your intent and borderline libelous. You'd be well advised to delete your post before Obe finds it and makes it his life's work to find you. And I'd be happy to help him.

I know I'm a bit late in saying this but please ignore this individual. They have just started posting here in the last 2 weeks and have not said a word that makes sense in that time. It is a troll account of some kind and should be ignored.

If you want safety you have to sacrifice.. quite simple. Clearly you don't want that.. so i guess you are the type of person who does not like cctv cam's either?. OMG! the intrusion.. how can you expect to live.. when you can not buy a bottle of pop at the shop with ought being watched by a street cam. The next day a guy rolls in with a shotgun and robs the place killing the only witness in the process. 2 weeks later he is caught as a direct result of cctv footedge. Put in jail.. will not kill another person (who we give a shit about anyway).

Again, people like you are purely selfish or lack understanding. You're an idiot.

OMG! Ceebo the perps are everywhere! track them! Good thing they caught this guy on camera:

http://www.urbanclimbermag.com/...tanks_tx/index4.html
Not appropriate, superchuffer and a pretty adolescent contribution to a serious subject. Also not amusing if that was your intent and borderline libelous. You'd be well advised to delete your post before Obe finds it and makes it his life's work to find you. And I'd be happy to help him.

My kids, who were on the team, claim they never heard of this. YET, I do know that things are said to kids this age and back and forth and these kids are not going to report on it. They were having fun with it. It wasn't until the investigation by police, that most of these comments were brought to anyones attention. Once the police notified Earthtrek they put him on administrative leave and very shortly afterward they terminated him. Kids will not tell parents things like that are going on all the time. They are young teens and intrigued and testing the waters. I get all the more that that makes his position dangerous, yet until something happens, then it is time to change things. As a parent that was present at the gym for most of the practices, it seemed very safe to me with so many ppl including me being around the kids etc. It is very sad but we will learn from it and move on and hope for the best for the young woman and her parents involved. Michael spoke to me often when I was at the gym, I feel like an idiot for not noticing anything, yet he was always pleasant, charismatic, excited about the teams events and work outs. There were no signs that would lead me to question him at all. Actually, to be truthful here, when we were notified that 'someone' was arrested and put on administrative leave, he was the LAST person I had suspected! I went to the gym the next night and was going to ask him if I needed to be concerned for my kids. All of the parents were shocked and feel betrayed. All of this being said, this will continue to happen, it is real life and unfortunate.

Look lady. I had sex for the first time when I was 13. It wasn't pleasant and it wasn't nice to talk about. But I have a younger brother, so I kept thing in line until I was 15 and finally told. Sex is a normal part of human development. As masters of this world, it is important you realize the abilities this child could develop. If she made it up, she goes on stalker list. If he's backing her story out of confusion or deep phiolosphical meditation, then they both go on the stalker list.

But keep in mind: things happen for a reason. again I remind you, Saints Walk the earth, in this instance. The child will be heavily monitored until the whole truth and nothing but the truth comes to light.

keep your mind current about it all.

Fairly?

My birthday is July 11th, and I kind of work for the cops right now.

Besides: Get an attitude with me, I will NIP IT IN THE BUD, it was an advertisement for parent coach contact and conversation. Also I keep ridiculously good files.

But you opinion is your opinion and I can't change that. accept, believe and move on.

I wonder why you incite me to rage: Simply because you'd like to have clean system? Well I'm sorry friend, I can't work for law breakers anymore. Thanks!

I am female.

I have a close relationship with the police because my cousin with whom I share a last name is a criminal defense lawyer.

I was just trying to help the case: As for Lyon's job, I don't believe posting a little bit of "sexually traumatic" attitude on a thread which is asking quite clearly how the rock climbing community will be affected by this occurrence is inappropriate at all.

As an immigrant to the United States of America, where English is still spoken and read despite the founding father's having been found guilty of treason, I apologize if my posts are difficult to decipher. But I do in fact live in the real world, and I have a history and life story.

I thought you all would be interested, because as I explained, in my native tongue, the name which I share with my other family members has meaning. In that language, it means rock. If you are unable to read my posts, then don't read them. If you are scared of me, for whatever reason I would not blame you. Life can become confusing sometimes. Confusion generally turns to anger, and while I do not hit without first being assaulted, it is clear, yyou would be friends have devised a method for making an enemy out of this thread, and the work I am willing to produce on this topic.

I was simply displaying an attitude which may be relevant to the topic at hand. I mean no disrespect and care immensely for everyone of you. I have just begun therapy for my anger, and am hoping to get my job back. I was a Division One athlete, my name is Jessica Kaminkow. I attended Columbia University for two years, and have since left the University in order to allow for the money which was "mine" to be used by the military and government to uphold treaties. Perhaps you are wondering why your prayers aren't being answered. All I can say folks, is that life costs money and I have very little of my own right now.I believe I speak for many members of the US, and I also believe I am telling you the truth about why my post was even mentioned. Perhaps next time I will adopt an air of paranoia as to avoid unwanted contact (in text or on the rocks) with any of you.

In the future, if you'd like to have your way with me, just send a private message. I will respond as quickly as possible.

I am female.

I have a close relationship with the police because my cousin with whom I share a last name is a criminal defense lawyer.

I was just trying to help the case: As for Lyon's job, I don't believe posting a little bit of "sexually traumatic" attitude on a thread which is asking quite clearly how the rock climbing community will be affected by this occurrence is inappropriate at all.

As an immigrant to the United States of America, where English is still spoken and read despite the founding father's having been found guilty of treason, I apologize if my posts are difficult to decipher. But I do in fact live in the real world, and I have a history and life story.

I thought you all would be interested, because as I explained, in my native tongue, the name which I share with my other family members has meaning. In that language, it means rock. If you are unable to read my posts, then don't read them. If you are scared of me, for whatever reason I would not blame you. Life can become confusing sometimes. Confusion generally turns to anger, and while I do not hit without first being assaulted, it is clear, yyou would be friends have devised a method for making an enemy out of this thread, and the work I am willing to produce on this topic.

I was simply displaying an attitude which may be relevant to the topic at hand. I mean no disrespect and care immensely for everyone of you. I have just begun therapy for my anger, and am hoping to get my job back. I was a Division One athlete, my name is Jessica Kaminkow. I attended Columbia University for two years, and have since left the University in order to allow for the money which was "mine" to be used by the military and government to uphold treaties. Perhaps you are wondering why your prayers aren't being answered. All I can say folks, is that life costs money and I have very little of my own right now.I believe I speak for many members of the US, and I also believe I am telling you the truth about why my post was even mentioned. Perhaps next time I will adopt an air of paranoia as to avoid unwanted contact (in text or on the rocks) with any of you.

In the future, if you'd like to have your way with me, just send a private message. I will respond as quickly as possible.

GONGRADULATION!

FFM - the post quoted above states that the guy has said on video, in published interviews, and on his 8a.nu site, things that should have raised suspicion. He may have been a perfect gentleman to you and the other parents, but if what realityclimber claims is true, that should have been enough for the guy's boss to do a little quiet investigation.

I'm not saying *you* should have known. I'm saying that the guy's boss maybe should have seen a red flag at some point, based on repeated public statements by one of his employees.

GO

The photo of Obe is entirely appropriate and has to do with my discussion/argument with Ceebo (I am an idiot apparently). I don't think everyone needs to be monitored all the time, or sent to the bathroom in pairs. Climbing with a kid in Hueco is entirely appropriate and that is my point. The hype surrounding this subject is getting out of hand. Adults have always had relationships with kids, and it may even involve appropriate touching. If we deciede that everyone needs to be 100% monitored all the time, then we lose the trust that these adult/kid relationships are built on.

But fine, since you are going to make it your life work, and Obe's, (ooohooo, I'm scared) apparently to track me down for posting a photo of him to prove a point that appropriate relationships are possible without constant monitoring, then I'll take it down.

but, since you were bright enough to re-post my point, you will have to take your down or I'll get Obe to find you!