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estwing
Jan 26, 2003, 7:08 PM
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I enjoy using a gear sling. It makes for less clutter on my harness and allows me to rack in a more organized fashion.
This link might be helpful.
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=20580&forum=20
Have a nice day,
Sam
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wildtrail
Jan 26, 2003, 7:21 PM
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I don't like it on my harness. Gets in the way in my opnion and I like having the gear sling. Everything can be removed at once and it's always in one spot for one hand to grab (my right). I don't like pro bouncing around off my legs and on a sling, it doesn't interfere with what I'm doing.
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bouldertoad
Jan 26, 2003, 7:33 PM
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I use a gear sling for all my gear and my gear loops on my harness for my draws. When I am sport climbing I only use the loops on my harness. Don't make the same mistake I di and get one of the gear slings without individual loops. I ended up using it one time then bought a metolius multi-loop gear sling.
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flying_dutchman
Jan 26, 2003, 7:48 PM
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has anyone ever had a gear loop break on their harness? the idea of my friends falling to their death due to a harness gearloop failing scares me. Just curious if anyone knows the strength rating on them.
I only used a gear sling on my first lead. I figure that the gear swings around too much IMO.
edit, im using too much slang here. 'friends' as in cams and never in my right mind would i tie into a gear sling, ever. gearloops dont look too strong, they are not even cordette. in fact, they look more like shoe laces.
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[ This Message was edited by: flying_dutchman on 2003-01-26 13:30 ]
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flamer
Jan 26, 2003, 7:59 PM
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I generally use the mutli-loop gear sling from Metolious. However I have found it to be a pain when Climbing chimney's and wide cracks- because I can't move the gear behind or in front of me as needed. Never heard of gear loops failing simply from racking gear on them!
josh
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w6jxm
Jan 26, 2003, 8:08 PM
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Do I hear you right flying _? Why would you worry about gear loops failing. If one does you would just loose the stuff that you had on that one loop. I hope you don't tie into you gear loops So maybe I just read you wrong.
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stevematthys
Jan 26, 2003, 9:17 PM
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i use a gear sling, works better for me
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dstein
Jan 26, 2003, 9:31 PM
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I usually put my quickdraws on my harness, because the are small. Then the rest of my trad rack on a gear sling. Depending upon the side I will be leaning towards when climbing (if at all), determines the side in which I wear it.
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rprp
Jan 26, 2003, 10:11 PM
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Most people I know use a sling without loops. I've never liked it that way. Multi-loop slings seem a bit better.
I always cut the loops off my harness and sew new ones on. I put three on each side and a long one across the back. Most of my gear goes on these loops, but I carry larger cams on an over-the-shoulder sling. I like the gear on my harness, and I've learned to move my legs in a way that keeps it from getting in the way. The only time I take the gear off my harness is when climbing wide cracks that I need to squeeze my hips into.
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crackaddict
Jan 27, 2003, 3:04 AM
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It all depends on the route for me.
If I am crusing up spliters in Indian Creek then I am all harness.
But if I am tackinling a multi pitch with all different sizes I will opt with the sling.
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redpoint73
Jan 27, 2003, 3:15 AM
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Biggest reason to use a gear sling is if you are on multi-pitch and swinging leads. It makes exchanging the rack MUCH faster. For multi-pitch I usually keep draws and runners on my harness, and pro and extra runners on the sling.
For single pitch climbs, go with what feels most comfortable to you. Racking on your harness keeps critical gear more immediately available. If the route is near my limit, I usually rack the more critical pieces (nuts and cams I think I will need at the crux), then put the rest on my sling.
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vegastradguy
Jan 28, 2003, 12:16 AM
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I use a yates big wall gear sling. keeps the weight of the rack distributed evenly and its much easier to organize than the metolius gear sling.
i wouldnt go up a multipitch without a sling. i got way too much crap.
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adirondakclimber
Jan 28, 2003, 1:14 AM
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I don't like using gear slings, the gear swings around too much.
I like attaching gear to my harness so i can grab it w/o looking.
I want to get a big wall harness so that i get the added room + it won't swing around too much. Plus i get an extra tie in point.
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repete
Jan 28, 2003, 1:17 AM
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flying_dutchman i think that on the petzl harnesses the gear loops are rated to 5 or 7Kn, but this says nothing about other harnesses.
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drector
Jan 28, 2003, 1:18 AM
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Using the harness loops makes me feel like it's pulling my pants down.
Actually, my harness is stight enough but I like a shoulder sling because I can spread the gear out more. Some on the harness and some on the sling. Mostly gear I want to keep on me when swinging leads will stay on my harness but there isn't much of that.
Dave
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jhwnewengland
Jan 28, 2003, 1:52 AM
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The first time I practiced prusik-ing, I was being prudent and tying in short to a locker every 10 feet or so. 40 feet up I realized the locker was still on my gear loop. Probably wouldn't have held a fall. I'll never make that mistake again!
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repete
Jan 28, 2003, 2:07 AM
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I use a sling just about all the time unless i am carying a small rack, or a rack with small gear. I switched from racking mainly on the harness to a multiloop gear sling because i never liked all of the big stuff, ie. #11 hex and the larger cams, bouncing around on my legs and whatnot.
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offwidth
Jan 28, 2003, 2:48 AM
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I use a gear sling. For me, it is easier to grab needed gear with either hand. Also, it is much easier to trail the gear sling behind when sqeezing through those chimneys.
However if I'm just climbing bolted slabs or some sport route, I probably just go with the harness gear loops.
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I use a gear sling simply cause I don't like extra weight on my harness from all the gear. It does have a tendency to swing in the front and be annoying but for what I lead it's not that big of a deal.
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ebrmusic
Jan 29, 2003, 5:07 PM
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I placed the gear on my harness the first few trad routes I led but after that I went to the sling and wouldn't go back. It allows me to move the gear from left to rigth depending on my body position and where im placing the piece. Otherwise you can get jammed up in a crack with all your gear on the side the crack is on.
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mustclimb69
Jan 29, 2003, 5:55 PM
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Gearsling. Easiest, fastest, less annoying.
So on and so on... I just like it better
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kirkbrode
Jan 30, 2003, 3:52 AM
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For cragging I rack on the waste and for longer multi-pitch routes I use a sling.
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davidji
Jan 30, 2003, 7:34 PM
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I usually use a gear sling (for cams). I prefer it for many of the reasons others have stated. Another reason that I haven't seen in other posts is this:
In a desperate situation, you can slot a cam while it's still on your gear sling, and
hang from it. Tough to do if you rack cams on your harness.
Make sure your sling is bodyweight, and doubled-back (if applicable).
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tkambitsch
Jan 31, 2003, 6:09 AM
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I've used a sling pretty regularly since I carry too much gear for my own good (12 to 15 cams w/biners, 1.5 sets of nuts, half a set of hexes and lots of pink and red tri-cams to start. Add 12 runners tripled over, 4 Attache biners and all the misc. things such as nut tool, knife, cordelette, belay device, prussik...)
The recent thread on how people rack got me to play around with trying to put everything on my harness. To make room I reduce my runners to 10 with six of them moved off the rack and placed over my shoulder (and eliminating one of biners on each.) I also daisy chained the free locking biners.
I got everything to fit but just barely and it felt like my pants were being pulled off me. But I did like the fredom I felt as I jumped around the house, hanging off the banister, etc.
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maculated
Jan 31, 2003, 6:17 AM
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I guess I was raised by old school climbers. I don't use a gear sling. I do sling my slings (tee hee) over my shoulders and clip extra slings to them.
And the gear loop question seems funny. The gear slings I've seen are the same kind of engineering as the gear loops on harnesses.
Another reason not to use a gear sling: I have boobs. Chimneys can be hard enough as it is. Heh.
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