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joemor
Apr 4, 2002, 3:25 AM
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what climbing related gear have u made????
rope bag, the clothes on your back, some scarey nuts from the hardware store on cord?
im going to try to make a chalk bag froma teddy bear, cut its legs off remove stuffing line it with fluffy stuff and bingo a cool chalk bag!!!!
joe
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bigfish03
Apr 4, 2002, 3:52 AM
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sweet!
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laplaya
Apr 4, 2002, 4:40 AM
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hey, I like the nuts idea...and sttopers should be easy to make...I thought about pounding in rail-road stakes as pitons and tieing them off with slings. any thoughts?
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joemor
Apr 4, 2002, 5:39 AM
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i was only joking bout the nuts.... you should only trust your life to certified products...... but im sure there those out there who have made pro..... well old timers used rocks jammed in cracks tied with slings as pro....
joe
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krustyklimber
Apr 4, 2002, 10:57 AM
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I have actually made my own alumimum pitons, stoppers, pecks and even, in the olden days, used machine nuts with the threads drilled out, and there is nothing I like more than to sling a chockstone (it is the most basic and satisfiying piece there is, like a gift from god).
I am currently working on a homemade portaledge, have made some stuff sacks and I'm also making a teddy bear into a chalkbag.
Jeff
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rado
Apr 4, 2002, 1:34 PM
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Teddybear chalkbag? Let's hope that some plushophile won't accuse climbers of cruelty to plush animals!
All the best,
Rado
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loafdog
Apr 4, 2002, 3:41 PM
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Leave the legs on the Teddy Bear!
Just cut off the head.
Then it would be the coolest chalk bag ever.
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verticallaw
Apr 4, 2002, 5:28 PM
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this is a some what creepy forum. I can understand making chalkbags, haulbags, clothes, etc but GEAR are you nuts (no pun intended) when I climb I am more than happy to spend the extra $$$ to know that the gear that I am falling on is safe. I belive that the only person who could make pro would have to be a expert climber as well as metal crafter. Just think of falling on a piton (railraod spike or homemade) watch it whizz past in your mind and ask yourself do you trust it compleatly??? metal has flaws internally and you will never know until its to late. Make what you want but I would'nt bank my life on it.
P.S. can you imagine hauling a bunch of railroad ties up a wall?? you would have to be a f**king gorilla!
Mike
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miagi
Apr 4, 2002, 8:43 PM
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I had these really cool LED pens that my dad got (he is a doctor, they get cool pens). Anyways i took the ink out and just had the two lights. I got some stretchy material, sewed the lights in, and made a head lamp Well, at least im in the process of it.
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atg200
Apr 4, 2002, 8:55 PM
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Making a pin out of a railroad spike would suck. I can't think of where that would be a useful size and shape.
I've slung blocks of wood to shim big cams with. Sketchy, but better than nothing in those 12" cracks.
andrew
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lostangel
Apr 4, 2002, 9:20 PM
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Hahaha The next thing we are going to hear is how vulgar climbers are ripping the arms and heads off of poor defenseless teddy bears!!
When I first started to climb I made a harness out of rope, it was reallly uncomfortable but it did the trick!!
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clymber
Apr 4, 2002, 9:59 PM
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I was thinking about turning my chalk bag into a teddy bear
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pattray
Apr 4, 2002, 10:07 PM
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My Dad used to carry a little leather bag on his back full of small to med sized stones and some wooden wedges that he made, he would wrap webbing around them and use them as choke stones when he climbed (This was in Ireland) he also made all his own metal stoppers.
he would make a harness out of rope and tie us in and haul us up after him.
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apollodorus
Apr 4, 2002, 11:15 PM
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Sometimes, the gear you need is not available in stores. The history of gear evolution ALWAYS begins with something new coming from someone's garage. Do you really think Ray Jardine bought his first Friends from Wild Country? He made them himself in Bill Forrest's shop.
http://home.pacbell.net/takasper/slcd/valleygiant.html
[ This Message was edited by: apollodorus on 2002-09-29 20:54 ]
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laplaya
Apr 4, 2002, 11:18 PM
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Pattray-your dad is now my hero!
Someone wrote... "when I climb I am more than happy to spend the extra $$$ to know that the gear that I am falling on is safe."
I believe that this piece-of-mind is one that can only be bought if you restrict yourself to top roping in gyms. that should be 1oo% fail proof. otherwise, no matter how safe your gear is, it is not safe unless it is properly placed. I was only half joking about the rail-road spikes, and yes, the would be a beast to haul up the rock, but if you could get them up there and find some where to place them, they would be as safe or safer then your $60 cams. There is no room for gear failure when you are talking about a solid piece of steel!
as far as using wood for chalks/ or to place cams...I would not do it, and if I did, I would be scared sh!stless
I in noway want to encourage unsafe climbing, but I think that there are such things as safe alternatives or at least alternatives that are just as safe as the accepted norms.
My absolute fav. placement is when I can place a sling directly on rock...no other pro needed. A sling over a horn or other rock formation or even slung through a hole and out the other side (I climb alot of karst) is bomber!
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krustyklimber
Apr 5, 2002, 1:17 AM
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I have no doubts about my climbing abilities, or my fabrication skills (I have worked in the aerospace industry, if I can make doors for 747's why can't I make pitons, on my lunch break, in the same shop?)
It's all about confidence!
Jeff
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lostangel
Apr 5, 2002, 1:53 AM
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apollo,
I don't know whether that is just plain beautiful or psyco !
But it is unquestionably awsome!!
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crux_clipper
Apr 6, 2002, 8:25 AM
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Malcom 'HB' Matheson made some of the very first micro cams and sold them out the back of a van at Araps in the 80's. I think he was doing mechanical engineering. Then the Cam companies ripped the idea off.
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frogirl
Apr 6, 2002, 2:03 PM
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I'm making a chalkbag out of duct tape.
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hishopper
Apr 6, 2002, 4:42 PM
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OK, why has no-one gone there yet? I know some of you have travelled a long distance to climb and come up short for a harness for yourself or partner. Out comes the Shrade before you know it you have delt most treacherously with the passenger side seatbelt of your approach vehicle.
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its_me_drew
Apr 6, 2002, 8:40 PM
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I tie my own daisy chains.
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krustyklimber
Apr 7, 2002, 7:15 AM
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Crap, I'm under the impression you and your partner have some severe mental problems (just kidding, you guys are funny, your little cross banter rivals Abbott & Costello)
And Climbon99, are you lookin' for test pilots, if you are let me know (I can keep a secret).
Jeff
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socialclimber
Apr 7, 2002, 10:02 AM
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When a gal I know took up climbing on account of the new man in her life, I made her a chalk bag. It started life as a bright yellow chicken hand puppet and would have gone on to scale greater heights as a chook bag except shes too embarrassed to wear it
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laplaya
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I make my own carabiners out of melted down aluminum cans...but sometimes I just use those plastic sinch-strips...you know, the ones like cops use to detain people when the dont have enough hand-cuffs to go around. also, if you cut the legs of your old jeans into strips, they make good short slings.
Oh, yea, kids... PLEASE DONT TRY THIS AT HOME!
you never know...if you fall, it could be hazzardous to your health.
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nessy
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i have a questions if any one has the technical knowledge to answer this. I make my own blades and angles. they were equally well to real ones except where i grind down the blades, to give them a taper and then use a hand file to take out the burs, they rust faster then the real ones. Can any body give me some suggestions on how fix this or what process they go through to give the real pitons that black finish, that doesn't rust thanks
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