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Outstanding!!! :D


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WOOOOO-fuckin'-HOOOOOO!

Good work everybody!


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Yee ha!


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Awesome! when are we allowed to go climb. im ready to put up some trad routes.


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On Wednesday at 2pm, in a legal office in downtown Asheville, the purchase contract of Laurel Knob was signed. It is ours!!

The cliff is not yet open to the public, pending some surveying to establish boundaries, as well as establishing access trails. Please don’t go there just yet, as trespessing on neighboring land could spoil our deal. Also, we are still in need of DONATIONS !! The purchase was made possible through a few loans which we will need to pay back, but we still need your help! Please consider donating to the CCC. Also, try to make the Trad-athlon fundraiser in March!

We all owe an incredible amount of thanks to Sean Cobourn, the CCC president, but most importantly to John Myers. For those that don’t know, it was John’s vision, knowledge, and energy that fueled the purchase of Laurel Knob. If is safe to say that without him, this unprecedented event may not have happened.

The following is a letter from John Myers that tells the story:

We now own the 1200-foot tall Laurel Knob, the tallest crag east of the Mississippi!

This magnificent cliff contains dozens of bold, long test-pieces following the unique water-carved grooves up the blank face. A number of the climbing legends of the Southern Appalachians stealthily have left their mark on the cliff over the past 30 years.

For the past 15 years, I have worked with land trusts buying lands for parks and trail corridors. Being a rock climber for nearly 40 years, I decided several years ago to apply this expertise to acquiring privately-owned crags and cliffs to re-open them. My first project was in Kentucky working with the Red River Gorge Climber’s Coalition to help them purchase 800 acres for a new climbing preserve, which they now own and manage.

Shortly after this, I joined the Board of the Access Fund and worked to strengthen support for local climbing organizations. I also researched and compiled a list of significant climbing areas across the country in private hands.

Upon moving to North Carolina in 2003, I began exploring whether any major crags might be available to be purchased. The name Laurel Knob came up several times in conversations with local climbers as some huge, mysterious, secret crag. Not knowing where it was and never having been there, I went on line and searched maps until I located it. On the Jackson County website, I found the name of the current owner.

In March 2004, I called him up at his home in South Carolina. As luck would have it, the timing was perfect. He had been discussing with the Nature Conservancy about a conservation easement, but they had not shown much interest. I expressed to him the importance of Laurel as a magnificent climbing resource and that we might be interested in buying, if he was willing to sell.

A little later, we met in person for the first of numerous meetings to discuss the project. He was a retired doctor but liked the idea letting us buy it to keep the cliff open for climbing. I then contacted Sean Cobourn to see if CCC might be interested in becoming the owner of the property. Not surprisingly, he was very enthusiastic. After all, this was an opportunity to buy and protect something as magnificent as Whitesides or Cannon Cliff or a major granite dome in Yosemite!

Over the next 12 months. I made several more visits to the owner’s house on top of Laurel. I researched local land values and made an offer, which he eventually accepted. Then for another 6 months, we continued negotiations over the details of the deal: where exactly would be the dividing line along the top of the cliffs, how wide would be the trail corridor, what activities would be permitted on the land, how would climbers get down after a climb, etc.

Then we discovered that the large landowner below was planning a major housing development. We met with them to share our plans and learn about theirs. Eventually we reached a verbal understanding that they would support our climbing plans and in the future might even be willing to consider climbing on Cow Rock on their property.

Then came the big hurdle of how to finance and pay for the purchase. Up until now, CCC has been a small organization that only recently got federal tax exempt status. Our bank balance has been typically only a few thousand dollars. How were we to raise $250,000 by December 2005 to pay for Laurel?

My first attempt was to arrange a large loan from the Open Space Institute in NY, who I have worked with in the past. For a long time they seemed interested in making a loan to us, but at the last minute they changed their mind. We then turned to a wealthy individual that the Southeastern Climbers Coalition had worked with in Georgia and Alabama. That too looked promising for a while, but eventually did not work out.

By now we were already a month past our scheduled closing date and starting to sweat bullets. Through Sean’s and other folk’s efforts we had raised about $50,000 in donations, but we were still $200,000 short in necessary loans. At this point, feeling desperate, we sent out a plea to everyone we knew who was a climber anywhere in the country to ask them for short-term loans. We got an article in the Access Fund’s Vertical Times newsletter. Climbing Magazine did and article on Laurel. Rockclimbing.com put up website posts. We hit the trade shows for corporate gifts. The response was truly amazing! We began getting in gifts from all over the country and even 3 foreign countries! We found about a dozen individuals who were able to consider making loans to CCC for up to 3 years. I managed to get the seller to give us another month of time to raise the money. Finally we were able to get commitments from 9 individuals who loaned us a total of $205,000. We also brought in another $10,000 in donations. We finally had enough to money to close.

With the help of our attorney, we prepared all the loan documents for the closing. In addition we had already completed the appraisal, and survey and environmental assessment. Finally on February 15, 2006 at 2 pm, after nearly two years of work, we signed the closing papers and Laurel Knob is ours!!

In my 15 years of buying land for conservation, I have helped purchase over 20,000 acres. This deal, however, means the most to me. Having been a climber for nearly 40 years, this was truly a labor of love and a great opportunity for me to “pay it forward” for the next generation of climbers.

Thanks to all of you for “stepping up to the plate” and making this amazing purchase possible. We could never have done it without you. A big, big thanks to everyone who helped!!

And now the next task for all of us is to continue reaching out to our friends and the climbing community, so we can pay off our loans over the next 2-3 years. I know we can do it!

John Myers

mountainlands@skyrunner.


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I know this is pretty specific to region, but I am posting this here because it may get better visibility.

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On Wednesday at 2pm, in a legal office in downtown Asheville, the purchase contract of Laurel Knob was signed. It is ours!!

The cliff is not yet open to the public, pending some surveying to establish boundaries, as well as establishing access trails. Please don't go there just yet, as trespassing on neighboring land could spoil our deal. Also, we are still in need of DONATIONS!!

The purchase was made possible through a few loans which we will need to pay back, but we still need your help! Please consider donating to the CCC. Also, try to make the Trad-athlon fundraiser in March!

We all owe an incredible amount of thanks to Sean Cobourn, the CCC president, but most importantly to John Myers. For those that don't know, it was John's vision, knowledge, and energy that fueled the purchase of Laurel Knob. If is safe to say that without him, this
unprecedented event may not have happened.

The following is a letter from John Myers that tells the story:

We now own the 1200-foot tall Laurel Knob, the tallest crag east of the
Mississippi!

This magnificent cliff contains dozens of bold, long test-pieces following the unique water-carved grooves up the blank face. A number of the climbing legends of the Southern Appalachians stealthily have left their mark on the cliff over the past 30 years.

For the past 15 years, I have worked with land trusts buying lands for parks and trail corridors. Being a rock climber for nearly 40 years, I decided several years ago to apply this expertise to acquiring privately-owned crags and cliffs to re-open them. My first project was in Kentucky working with the Red River Gorge Climber's Coalition to
help them purchase 800 acres for a new climbing preserve, which they now own and manage.

Shortly after this, I joined the Board of the Access Fund and worked to
strengthen support for local climbing organizations. I also researched and compiled a list of significant climbing areas across the country in private hands.

Upon moving to North Carolina in 2003, I began exploring whether any major crags might be available to be purchased. The name Laurel Knob came up several times in conversations with local climbers as some huge, mysterious, secret crag. Not knowing where it was and never having been there, I went on line and searched maps until I located
it. On the Jackson County website, I found the name of the current owner.

In March 2004, I called him up at his home in South Carolina. As luck would have it, the timing was perfect. He had been discussing with the Nature Conservancy about a conservation easement, but they had not shown much interest. I expressed to him the importance of Laurel as a magnificent climbing resource and that we might be interested in buying, if he was willing to sell.

A little later, we met in person for the first of numerous meetings to discuss the project. He was a retired doctor but liked the idea letting us buy it to keep the cliff open for climbing. I then contacted Sean Cobourn to see if CCC might be interested in becoming the owner of the property. Not surprisingly, he was very enthusiastic. After all, this was an opportunity to buy and protect something as magnificent as Whitesides or Cannon Cliff or a major granite dome in Yosemite!

Over the next 12 months. I made several more visits to the owner's house on top of Laurel. I researched local land values and made an offer, which he eventually accepted. Then for another 6 months, we continued negotiations over the details of the deal: where exactly would be the dividing line along the top of the cliffs, how wide would
be the trail corridor, what activities would be permitted on the land, how would climbers get down after a climb, etc.

Then we discovered that the large landowner below was planning a major housing development. We met with them to share our plans and learn about theirs. Eventually we reached a verbal understanding that they would support our climbing plans and in the future might even be willing to consider climbing on Cow Rock on their property.

Then came the big hurdle of how to finance and pay for the purchase. Up until now, CCC has been a small organization that only recently got federal tax exempt status. Our bank balance has been typically only a few thousand dollars. How were we to raise $250,000 by December 2005 to pay for Laurel?

My first attempt was to arrange a large loan from the Open Space Institute in NY, who I have worked with in the past. For a long time they seemed interested in making a loan to us, but at the last minute they changed their mind. We then turned to a wealthy individual
that the Southeastern Climbers Coalition had worked with in Georgia and Alabama. That too looked promising for a while, but eventually did not work out.

By now we were already a month past our scheduled closing date and starting to sweat bullets. Through Sean's and other folk's efforts we had raised about $50,000 in donations, but we were still $200,000 short in necessary loans. At this point, feeling desperate, we sent out a plea to everyone we knew who was a climber anywhere in the country to
Ask them for short-term loans. We got an article in the Access Fund's Vertical Times newsletter. Climbing Magazine did and article on Laurel. Rockclimbing.com put up website posts. We hit the trade shows for corporate gifts. The response was truly amazing! We began getting in gifts from all over the country and even 3 foreign countries! We found
about a dozen individuals who were able to consider making loans to CCC for up to 3 years. I managed to get the seller to give us another month of time to raise the money. Finally we were able to get commitments from 9 individuals who loaned us a total of $205,000. We also brought in another $10,000 in donations. We finally had enough to money to lose.

With the help of our attorney, we prepared all the loan documents for the closing. In addition we had already completed the appraisal, and survey and environmental assessment. Finally on February 15, 2006 at 2 pm, after nearly two years of work, we signed the closing papers and Laurel Knob is ours!!

In my 15 years of buying land for conservation, I have helped purchase over 20,000 acres. This deal, however, means the most to me. Having been a climber for nearly 40 years, this was truly a labor of love and a great opportunity for me to "pay it forward" for the next generation of climbers.

Thanks to all of you for "stepping up to the plate" and making this amazing purchase possible. We could never have done it without you. A big, big thanks to everyone who helped!!

And now the next task for all of us is to continue reaching out to our friends and the climbing community, so we can pay off our loans over the next 2-3 years. I know we can do it!

The Wednesday in reference at the top was two days ago, Feb 15 2006.


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EDIT: I saw there were two of these, so I merged them.

Congratulations and thanks to everybody who stepped up, especially here on RC.com! I do believe I'll start thinking about which route to climb first. :D

BUT, don't forget, the CCC still needs $$ to make good on all the loans. The deal done, but the saga continues. Keep stepping up -- please!


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My bad cccman. Didn't see that and just saw the letter in the Yahoo group? I'm assuming that's where you got it?

edit: oops after realizing what cccman most likely stands for I now get it lol. Thanks for the work, I look forward to getting my ass kicked by that rock someday.


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This is an excellent news, I'm so happy to read this.

cccman ans j_ung and others my congrates to you for getting the job done well, oh what the hell

JOB WELL DONE

Why can't I get the letters to be bigger ?

Man this is so awesome.

( sorry, I couldn't resist. )

P.S. how much do we still own on this ?


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Congradulations to all.

I can feel a road trip coming together later on this year...


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Congradulations guys. I keep seeing stuff about this and am glad to hear you finally got it done. Right now I am to far away and too poor to go there but hopefully someday.


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How can I make a donation to the CCC? Is it done through Paypal, or do i need to send a check somewhere, because the Climbing Club at my college would like to help the cause!
-Brian


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Congratulations to the CCC & John Myers. This is an awesome step forward for the climbing community. Hopefully people will respond to the need that still exists to pay off those loans!


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07BrPaul - you can do either - here's the website:

http://carolinaclimbers.org/?page_id=30


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are you going to organize fund raising events to keep the loan payments up to date? Raffles or climbing contests, a grand opening that ya charge 10$ more for? PM me if ya are, or if you need help getting it organized. I may be able to help, and I'd certainly love to attend!


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A few places in our area are selling the bumper stickers for donations toward the loans.


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This is an excellent news, I'm so happy to read this.

cccman ans j_ung and others my congrates to you for getting the job done well, oh what the hell

JOB WELL DONE

Why can't I get the letters to be bigger ?

Man this is so awesome.

( sorry, I couldn't resist. )

P.S. how much do we still own on this ?

Thanks, but all I did was start a thread and make a few posts. I'm gonna give it up to all you who ponied up, especially those who may very well never even climb there. And to the CCC, which is proving itself to be one the most effective advocacy orgs on Earth. It's an exciting time to be a climber in the Southeast!

Jay
Proud CCC member


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nice. some good news.

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Very cool.

I'm sure this may be answered on the CCC page, but are there plans for an annual fundraising event (ie: Ouray)?


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This is awesome. Sean do you know if there are any Aid lines that go up the huge overhanging bulge?


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This is great news. I've been meaning to join the CCC forever and finally did this past saturday at the Dixie Rock comp. in Chapel Hill. The cool thing is, one of the guys working at the CCC table is one of my professors :).


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Thanks, but all I did was start a thread and make a few posts.

If you didn't do that some of us ( I hope I can say that ) would never know that LK still needed donations.

Ones again BIG THANKS
(to all the climbers)


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:D Thanks to everyone who has helped us on this mission. To answer some questions:
We still need roughly 150k$. We have three years to pay it off, no monthly mortgage involved.
Yes, we have lots of fundraisers in the works. We hope to have a presence at all the regional comps, we are planning to start an annual climbing festival beginning this fall, we are applying for grants inside and outside the climbing world, etc.
Donations can be made via paypal at our website, www.carolinaclimbers.org, or they can be mailed to:
CCC
PO Box 33227
Raleigh, NC 27636-3227
We hope to have a complete set of route topos soon. A guestimate is 25 routes, none actually through the overhanging bulge of the headwall, YET.
We hope to set some trail days in March.
We have donations from 3 continents and 4 countries. Any rc'ers from Africa, South America or Australia? I sure would be cool to get a donation from each inhabited continent! :P
Sean Cobourn


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Awesome! when are we allowed to go climb. im ready to put up some trad routes.

Could you put up one 5.8 for me please.

cccman: Is there any online quide of routes for LK ?
( Sorry I haven't read much about the place.)

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